The Vatican finally admits the truth.could there be aliens?

[saxman]

After they figured out that the earth is not flat they have new ideas about the world, go figure !

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091111/ap_on_sc/eu_vatican_aliens

[hoops]

The Vatican has a lot of things they aren't telling anyone
peace
hoops

[angelgirl]

Thanks Saxman :cool:

[DaveM]

I suppose they want to send missionaries. Navigation should be interesting, given that there is some official uncertainty in the church over the earth being the center of the universe, etc.

Somewhere, Galileo is laughing.

[hoops]

or crying.
the question is how they would get missionaries to "outer space" because most of them, in the Catholic religion are sent with nothing but the clothes on their backs... most Catholic missionaries have short life spans because they go into counties that don't have the means to treat the simplest disease. I have a friend who was a missionary, He got malaria 5 times, and west nile virus, 2 times, and a disentary ( sp?) i don't know how many times. he was taken out of service at age 43. he is now Janis's age and works at the vatican on their website translating it into 17 languages. but spends most of his days lying in bed crippled from his illness. oops, i got stuck talking and couldn't stop,,,sorry...just wondering how those missionaries are gonna breathe out there.
peace
hoops

[TiminOhio]

;) Saxman,
I recently purchased & read a book that has to do with the guitar in America and the experience of having a guitar made for you personally by a Luthier. Janis, by the way, has a guitar in the oven for her I recently learned.
Sorry I degressed. The book is by Tim Brookes, "Guitar, An American Life" published 2005 by Grove Press. I found my copy on Amazon.com.
What does it have to do with the Catholic Church and aliens?
Mr. Brookes points out an interesting point regarding Galileo & the Pope.
But this is not the Galileo (astonomer) we are all familiar with, rather it is his father, Vincenzo Galilei. When the spacing of frets on acoustic instruments, such as the guitar, was considered the Church had a small part to play to say the least about the instruments design. Vincenzo introduced the concept of "equal temperament" . In fretted instruments this means that the frets are spaced such that the instrument can be played in any key and still be in tune! Believe it or not this seemingly harmless proposition angered the Church because equal temperament contradicted the dogma adopted by the Church of numerical perfection of the world - Pythagoras (remember his theorem) and the Greeks. So frets had to be placed evenly apart according to the Church.
Mr Brookes paraphrases Richard Brune (an outstanding luthier & restorer of antique instruments): "Richard Brune.....makes the impish suggestion that Galileo would never have had such a conflict with the Church over the earth orbiting the sun if the family hadn't already been identified as radicals and troublemakers thanks to his father's heretical ideas about the frets."

I'll leave you to make of that what you will - people being what they are created a rigid stance about the earth's relation to the sun & universe and whether or not the earth was round or flat because of politics!

Obviously, the church is interested in Revelation & "wormwood". Although, if the church's observatories do discover an object of enormous size on a crash course with the earth, I am not privy to what they plan to do with that information. Will the church broadcast it to the world's inhabitants as a sort of last call to repent and accept Jesus' Grace?

Take care,
Tim ;)

[DaveM]

Somehow, the idea that one is following in the footsteps of a heretic by playing in tune seems to fit in a peculiar way. Now I have yet another reason to keep my guitars perfectly in tune whenever possible.

Yes, once upon a time it was God's will that musician's be off-pitch. I'd never heard that one before and I'm having a good chuckle over it.

[coffeegyrl]

Yes, once upon a time it was God's will that musician's be off-pitch.

Yet another egotistic example of some human thinking that they know the will of God. :eek:

[hoops]

I really don;t know why the Church cares
peace
hoops

[DaveM]

Hoops, if you take a close look at any number of the things religions make into big issues, you will find yourself scratching your head until it bleeds.

[saxman]

what about the aliens ? no longer si fi . Maybe the church is preparing to say that God created Aliens and maybe they already know they exist and another planet is really in trouble and an alien Jesus went to another world another universe that god created 4.6 billion years ago, he will return to earth when we are about to self destruct. if the church doesent include the fact that aliens exist then they will have a hard sell when we do meet them. That means that some of my alien friends can come out of the attic now and surface.aliens dont have to come out of the closet because they are a higher form of inteligence, so they keep to the attics
Dont take this so serious it cracks me up to read about the vatican and there ways

[Dee]

The Vatican is SO behind the times. Some of my best friends are aliens. Including me! <grin>

[DaveM]

Dee, keep your ears covered!

[hoops]

DaveM, i stopped scratching my head years ago over the Vatican. you don't have to know too much to know that "love one another as I have loved you" is missed so often it'll make you lose your mind
peace
hoops

[DaveM]

Yes, I entirely agree....

I find such a strange irony in this. Musical pitch is governed by a number of very specific rules which can be expressed mathematically. It is for this reason that the distances between frets and related measurements can be determined precisely. So in effect, by opposing accurately-fretted instruments, the Church was claiming that as per its authority, two and two did not make four.

All the more curious when one considers that both early Catholic scholars and more recent researchers have repeatedly referred to mathematics as "the language of God". Makes me feel worse about never making it through high school algebra, mind.

[saxman]

Wow Davem you made it to algebra ? i never got that far in math but it didnt stop me from studying Sax at Juilliard . But i do think music and math go hand in hand , and religion has nothing to do with music in general.i do understand music is a part of some religions and religion is part of some people and some musicians are part of religions so 1 and 2 = 3/4 time

[hoops]

Math is the universal language. even the "aliens" know it. Oh, DaveM, th church can make the crusades right, making 2+2 equal something besides 4 is easy.
peace
hoops

[DaveM]

The Crusades were right but apparently those who served best at "crusading", the Knights Templar, were not. They got too much money and power for the Church's comfort and most of their leaders were tortured and killed. Thus leading to centuries of rumors that they have gone underground and are plotting to resurface. Given the sort of things the Templars did during the Crusades, I expect that even from "underground", we'd know if they were still active.

Perhaps the Church should read up on "Lawsonomy", a more or less incoherent set of ideas which originated with arch-crank Alfred W. Lawson around the turn of the century. For a few details, see http://www.insolitology.com/topten/alfredlawson.htm. I am especially fond of the "theory of Suction and Pressure", which he claimed was a great breakthrough in physics (and which, frankly, can be used to explain anything if you are laughing hard enough).

Believe it or not, a University of Lawsonomy still exists and makes Lawson's sacred texts available online. Apparently they also offer degrees. Provided the diploma requires only a self-addressed stamped envelope, I plan to commence my studies at once.

[hoops]

let me know what tuition is. I'd love a good PhD that i can laugh about!
peace
hoops

[saxman]

cool down , its only about aliens , no cat fights please

[DaveM]

At this point it looks as if the only contact is an e-mail address. I'm not entirely sure that I want these people to be able to contact me. Can you imagine the spam?

[hoops]

good point Dave
peace
hoops