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david uk
01-03-2009, 07:52 AM
"A vegetarian, teetotaller, non-smoker, she had a lifelong weakness for rice pudding "

well I have a few points in common with her. Now I just have to start eating rice pudding.

I'd love to live to that age, provided I was in good health and happy- after all quality of life is more important than quantity.

"In her homeland of Portugal, she had lived through the 1910 revolution that deposed the monarchy, the 1926 military coup that installed the Salazar dictatorship and the 1974 "Carnation" coup that heralded democratic reform."

so she'd not lived through much then :p

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/maria-de-jesus-worlds-oldest-person-dies-at-the-age-of-115-1222853.html

Sara
01-03-2009, 08:10 AM
I'd love to live to that age, provided I was in good health and happy- after all quality of life is more important than quantity.
Well put, David. Couldn't agree with you more.


"In her homeland of Portugal, she had lived through the 1910 revolution that deposed the monarchy, the 1926 military coup that installed the Salazar dictatorship and the 1974 "Carnation" coup that heralded democratic reform."
Interesting how, of all the possible benchmarks, life is measured by incidents of military violence. :(

Bat
01-03-2009, 08:30 AM
Right on the mark, Sara...and that is why I always hated history until I found out that a lot more happened during those past years than the wars they were highlighted by...I guess that's why boys always liked history better than the girls did. I was not really into memorizing the date of the Pelopponesian war, or any of the others, either.

david uk
01-03-2009, 08:52 AM
I guess you can read something positive in the dates in her life though- yes they are all dates of violent conflict, but the last date marked the start of democracy in Portugal, which filled the last 35 years of her life and continues today.

Also, those particular dates were chosen by the journalist who wrote the article, she may have chosen other dates to mark her life.

Mary6906
01-03-2009, 08:52 AM
I ban Bat for using the word Pelopponesian!!! :D Oops sorry wrong thread!

It's too early in the morning for me to be reading big words like that!! My brain is still asleep.

Judy
01-03-2009, 08:52 AM
One of the clearest memories of my grandmother is seeing her on a summer day standing on her front lawn. An airplane roared overhead and she looked up and watched until is disappeared. I remember looking at her and thinking about the incredible evolution of transportation she had seen over her 90 + years.

Eva
01-03-2009, 09:10 AM
I don't think I would want to live that long. At about 80 I think it's enough for me. Like my 92 year old aunt used to say: "Getting old is great. Being old is terrible. But she fought untill her last breath.

Eva

Bat
01-03-2009, 10:07 AM
As they said in the article, it doesn't matter really what you do as long as you choose your parents well...age is in the genes, and there's not too much you can do about that. Health is most important, and keeping one's wits, too. As long as you have those going for you, you can enjoy your life to the fullest for as long as it takes. I'm aiming for 92 or so...and I'm sure when I get there, if I'm still going strong I won't want to quit.:cool:
I can't wait to see what will be invented tomorrow!!!

Amy in Vermont
01-03-2009, 11:35 AM
...age is in the genes,

My oldest pair of jeans is about 9 years....

...oh wait... GENES... hmmm... well.. there's my dad... who's name isn't Gene... but he's kicking 93 in the ass...

....mom is 83. Her mom died at 88, her sister at 86....

...unfortunately, the women all were/are quite demented.

To be truthful, given the current state of my body, I'll be lucky to see 75!

Sara
01-03-2009, 11:52 AM
My oldest pair of jeans is about 9 years....Good one, Amy!



To be truthful, given the current state of my body, I'll be lucky to see 75!
So my question to all is this: If it were possible to know the date/time and manner of your own death, would you want to know ahead of time? :confused:

dragonlady
01-03-2009, 12:12 PM
Definitely NOT!!!! In this case I'd want to blissfully ignorant and enjoy my life not worry about my last days.

-di

Marcia Drummergal
01-03-2009, 12:13 PM
Good one, Amy!



So my question to all is this: If it were possible to know the date/time and manner of your own death, would you want to know ahead of time? :confused:


A big, fat NO!! Talk about paranoia. I wouldn't want to know either one. Then I would be trying to prevent it (and I guess you can't change the future...or CAN you)? And it would always be in the back of my mind, "I am going to die of ____ on _____ date. Yuk!

Marcia :eek:

Eva
01-03-2009, 12:14 PM
Nae... let it be a surprise.

Eva

TwinLori
01-03-2009, 12:17 PM
Interesting question, Sara... (by the way, how do you guys do the "Quote" thing on this message board?)...

"So my question to all is this: If it were possible to know the date/time and manner of your own death, would you want to know ahead of time?"

Guess I suppose it would make a difference if one just knew or if one could do something to change it! Or, even if you knew you were going to die at a young age then I'd think most people would live their lives differently up until that point.

In some ways it's like knowing what sex of child you're having before it's born...you can't change it, but you can prepare for it.

Think I'd like to live to about 85 years of age. My aunt who I take care of is 93 (almost 94) and can't see/hear much anymore. But, I know two 80 year olds who seem like they are in their 60s. If 60 is the new 40, then is 80 the new 60? :-)

Oak Kitten
01-03-2009, 09:53 PM
The issue for me is to figure out the timing of checking out. My biggest fear is losing my mind (yes, I am well aware that many of you are of the opinion that that horse has long since left the barn). The track record on my mother's side of the family is not good in that regard. She and almost all her sisters succumbed to dementia and psychosis in their final years. Absolutely miserable way to end one's days. If you are familiar with the movie "Harold and Maude" I think the Ruth Gordon character had the right idea. Live life to the fullest and check out on your own terms. In her case, she chose her eightieth birthday, because "After 80 you are just marking time."

Oak

hoops
01-03-2009, 10:42 PM
well my moms side of the family great grandma was 99 grandma was 83 mom was 66 great grand pa was 71 grand pa was 62
on dads side all lived into 80's.
i would not want to know the date and mode of my death and i do not want to live past 80
may this lovely woman rest in peace
peace
hoops

DaveM
01-04-2009, 01:37 AM
Dang...non-smoker, non-drinker, celibate....could I have a chance at attaining such an age? That'd be another 70 years. I don't know that I even want to contemplate that....

I recall some years ago when the oldest person on earth died (a French woman who was around 120 and once sold paintbrushes to Vincent Van Gogh). If I recall correctly, when she hit 115 or so, so was asked how she had managed to live so long. She replied that to protect her health, she'd given up smoking cigars three years ago. To my knowledge, she never did give up her beloved brandy.

Sara
01-04-2009, 12:06 PM
Interesting question, Sara... (by the way, how do you guys do the "Quote" thing on this message board?)...
Lori, instead of clicking on the blue "Post Reply" button at the end of the thread, simply click on the Quote button at the lower right of the post you want to quote. That will work fine to quote one person.

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You can also quote separate pieces from a single post, making sure that each piece begins with
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Bat
01-04-2009, 12:17 PM
You can also 'copy' the quote you want, hit the right yellow rectangle at the top of the page you are replying on, click a cursor in the middle to insert, and 'paste'.

Sara
01-05-2009, 08:41 AM
The issue for me is to figure out the timing of checking out. My biggest fear is losing my mind (yes, I am well aware that many of you are of the opinion that that horse has long since left the barn).If you don't mind my saying so, Oak, I'd say that horse is well ensconced in that barn. Your writing here is consistently of unusually high quality. Can't imagine you any other way! :)

DaveM
01-05-2009, 02:53 PM
You mean some people around here get horses? I didn't even get a barn.

hoops
01-05-2009, 03:14 PM
dave, as another non smoker, non drinker, non ANYTHING FUN lol. i think we are in for a shorter life span, as it seems all those who have longevity seem to enjoy one or more of the above. my great grandma who lived to be 99 and 1/2 enjoyed a good drink ( she was from the bailey clan)... she said"everything in moderation" she was born prematurely, her mother died in childbirth, great grandma weighed 1 1/2 obs when she was born back in the 1800's she had to have done something right.
come to think of it... i died at 39...hmm
peace
hoops

Sara
01-06-2009, 04:42 PM
come to think of it... i died at 39...hmm
peace
hoops
Hoops, were you pronounced legally dead for a brief period? If so, can you describe your experience? (Or were you just kidding? Sorry for my ignorance.)

hoops
01-06-2009, 10:26 PM
sara yes, i was pronounced legally dead 2 years ago. i can't describe the experience because i have no memory of that day or the days before and a couple weeks after. sorry
peace
hoops

DaveM
01-07-2009, 12:01 AM
Hmmm....same experience, same result, though I was a bit younger. Strange thing was that I came out of it convinced that I had touched some sort of Higher Truth and spent two weeks madly trying to write all about it to everyone I knew. Since I never have been able to figure out how the idea came into my head (endorphin rush is my best guess), I never was able to explain any of it satisfactorily. Sure was weird, though.

Hoops, I think that those of us who have given up everything don't necessarily live longer, it just seems that way. Yeah, yeah, I know....ancient joke.