Supreme Court of U.S. to consider suit alleging Obama ineligible to be President

[Gandalf]

To be clear, the Court will decide today whether or not it will even take on the case: http://www.legalnewsline.com/news/217783-justices-to-decide-whether-to-hear-obama-citizenship-challenge

Here is one group sponsoring this challenge: http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf

Don't we just hold the most fun elections?

[Gandalf]

Shoulda been in the Zoo? Can Jon or someone move it, please? Don't wanna cross-post. Thanks.

[DaveM]

I get an e-mail newsletter from some paranoid fellow who loves to go on and on about this sort of thing--and of course never says a word when he invariably proves to be wrong (he presumably believes he is right and that the truth is just being hidden by the liberal mainstream media or some such cabal). No idea how I got on his e-mail list....and I've been to scared to ask or try to unsubscribe.

Anyway, one of his recent screeds mentioned this, along with someone (presumably the same person behind the "lawsuit") who is supposedly running a full page ad in the Chicago Tribune about the whole thing (he adds somewhat pseudo-ominously, "if THEY print it"). It's well-worth reading for laughs:

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf

Make a list of the lapses in logic and outright falsehoods in this document and you'll probably run out of paper. At the same time, I find this a bit creepy because: 1. people like this have enough money to take out full-page ads in major newspapers (though I suppose whoever it is could just be CLAIMING to be running said ad--when it doesn't appear, "the conspiracy" will be to blame) and 2. because the critical thinking and reading comprehension skills of anyone with a high school diploma from the past 30 years are likely so low that a fair number just might believe this sort of thing.

If the Republican Party has sunk so low that this is the sort of people they represent, they need to take a VERY good look at themselves before criticizing anyone else.

[Gandalf]

Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh have an audience of approximately 20 million people.

They seem, to me, to be playing with fire. In a manner vaguely reminiscent (to me) of Slobodan Miloshevich, these two commentators (and others) have risen to power by finding a niche and exploiting it. They are not only manipulating, but they are actively encouraging intolerance, fear, divisiveness, and anger. I hope they remember the fire that resulted when the once-tolerant Yugoslavia was ripped apart.

Here is a small measure of their effectiveness. In the early months of George Bush's first administration, I sent some e-mail to a group of people; it was mildly critical of something that Mr. Bush had said or done. I was new to the neighborhood I now live in. One of my new neighbors quickly shot back this excited reply: "Thank goodness, Henry! You've been flying the flag since the day you moved in, so I'd just assumed that you were a Republican!"

This is what they have already wrought.

I hope they don't start a fire that consumes this country.

[Dee]

New Jersey attorney Leo Donofrio contends that Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen, which the constitution requires of presidents.

The lawsuit originally filed against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Mitchell Wells sought to stay the Nov. 4 election.

Although Donofrio concedes Obama was born in Hawaii, he contends that Obama is a British citizen because to his father's British citizenship.

Unless they recently moved Hawaii, I see nothing to whine about.

[sky]

Oh please! Why must this keep going on? He was born in Hawaii which became a US state about 3 years before Obama was born, and they are challenging his citizenship?

Plus his mother was an American wasn't she? So even "if" he had hypathetically been born abroad (like in Kenya or somewhere) he would STILL be a U.S. citizen because his mother was, -no matter what his fathers nationallity was.

Under section 301 of the Immigration Nationaly Act, a child born abroad to ONE U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquaires U.S citizenship at birth as long as the U.S. parent has lived in the U.S. for a period of ten years (5 of those years after the age of 14) prior to the childs birth to meet the requirements for physical presence in the U.S to transmit U.S citizenship to the child. I am not aware of how old Obamas mother was when he was born (I gues she needed to be at least 19 if he was born out of the U.S. to pass on citizenship at the time of birth)- but it doesn't matter because he was born in Hawaii!

It sounds like sore loosers to me!!!!

[janisian]

It doesn't rise to the level of The Zoo as yet.

[Bat]

Yer killin' me, Janis!

Actually, this sort of stuff is only posted due to mild disinterest and disbelief that such stuff is being taken seriously by anyone.
So, does anyone seriously believe that Obama would have even been declared eligible for nomination had he not been born a legal citizen? Oy.

[paularoid]

So where's all the hoopla about the fact that McCain was born in Panama? Where's the big stink about that? Doesn't that make McCain's citizenship questionable if Obama's is?

I'm reminded of the old saying about pots, kettles, and the color black for some reason. :p

I'd say "Get off it!" but people tend to throw snitfits when I tell 'em that,..... even if it -is- deserved,..... and even in "The Zoo". :rolleyes:

[DaveM]

In order to accept this, we must also accept that the entirety of the higher ranks of the Democratic Party consists of some sort of conspiracy which banded together to nominate and elect a non-citizen....for what process?

Are we supposed to believe that the day after Barack Obama is sworn in, that the streets will be full of troops marching under the Kenyan and Indonesian flags?

A parallel to this claims that every bad Arab Fox News talks about was dancing in the streets after learning that Obama had been elected. Just why would this be and how would anyone in the United States know this information? The names of the "celebrants" have included several who are wanted by the Unites States or other countries, and rather understandably, maintaining a low profile.

[Sara]

All this hoopla is a moot point, isn't it? I mean, the Supreme Court isn't going to consider this before the inauguration and, afterwards, it'll be a done deal, anyway. Just another mean-spirited attack, if you ask me.

[paularoid]

All this hoopla is a moot point, isn't it? I mean, the Supreme Court isn't going to consider this before the inauguration and, afterwards, it'll be a done deal, anyway. Just another mean-spirited attack, if you ask me.
A moot point perhaps but in my opinion, generally speaking the republican party is all about winning at any or all costs and there is no time limit.

[Reva]

God bless America, for in the end, Obama was elected, and as a Canadian I welcome his presence on the International scene.

We have no leader anywhere near the quality of Mr Obama.

[hoops]

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peace
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[Elliott]

Someone told me today that W. resigned, and then Dick became president, then resigned.... just after he appointed Condi Rice his VP... making her the first female, black, republican president. :confused: Who knew?