Gay men and heterosexual women.......

[gisli]

Gay men and heterosexual women have similarly shaped brains, research shows


Lesbians and heterosexual men show same pattern


http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jun/16/neuroscience.psychology

[Dee]

"Striking similarities between the brains of gay men and straight women have been discovered by neuroscientists, offering fresh evidence that sexual orientation is hardwired into our neural circuitry.

Scans reveal homosexual men and heterosexual women have symmetrical brains, with the right and left hemispheres almost exactly the same size. Conversely, lesbians and straight men have asymmetrical brains, with the right hemisphere significantly larger than the left."

I'm good with that, as long is it doesn't mean that I have give birth. :eek: :p

[Eva]

And the how is that for transgenders and intersexed people? Not transsexuals but for the people inbetween / both being male and female... My question is serious. And the study seems to be intended seriously too.

Eva

[hoops]

interesting question eva. ofter all trans and inters are people too...that's why it is LGBTQ not just LGB.
peace
hoops

[Eva]

interesting question eva. ofter all trans and inters are people too...that's why it is LGBTQ not just LGB.
peace
hoops
Yep, last time I checked they were still people ;) But seriously... I wonder about these things. I have found that gender isn't as much of a binary thing as I thought 10 years ago. A lot has to do with selfidentification in gender, which isn't about biology. But... Most feel very certain about that their biology causes them genderdysphoria and I think that's a very valid feeling. And being intersexed is about biology.

Eva

[hoops]

Eva,
it has been my hope since i knew i was gay that the LGBTQ community can come together and support each other. i know a lot of times this is not true and it hurts because tho our experience is not the same, there are similarities AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY us gay folk are out fighting for equality, we need to know, to understand deeply that this means for ALL people.
peace
hoops

[Eva]

Eva,
it has been my hope since i knew i was gay that the LGBTQ community can come together and support each other. i know a lot of times this is not true and it hurts because tho our experience is not the same, there are similarities AND EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY us gay folk are out fighting for equality, we need to know, to understand deeply that this means for ALL people.
peace
hoops
Yes, I hope that too Hoops. I must say that in the lesbian SM communities in Europe northwestern female born transgenders and transmen are very much part of the community. Transsexual women are quite a part of it too. Although I must say that male born transgenders are considered too much man to be allowed to take part in the activities. Women's space is still very important and women don't want to give that up. Transsexual men are usually the same people who already were involved in the scene before their transitioning. So if they have ties to the women's community and respect for women's space they are very welcome to be a part of the community. It doesn't always go as smoothly as we all hope for and reasons for that can be many. But there is certainly a development in there. What I have seen untill now here is that gay men, as a scene, are the most hesitant in this. I don't know why.

I must say I don't really have a lot of experience in the more mainstream secene. Though I see developments there too. Not only in north western Europe but also in southern Europe and Eastern Europe. Bisexuals and transsexuals becoming more and more a part of the 'scene'. It is opening up. Slowly but surely. Also trans- and intersexed people have their own activitities and groups too. Most of the time non-trans or non-intersexed people are very welcome there too as long as they respect queer space. So the willingness to open up in general is coming from several sides. I like it. Even though I must say that women's space is very important to me and I would never want to give it up in favour of a more general queer or pansexual space. They can exist next to eachother as far as I am concerned. Work together, support eachother and if appropriate there can be overlap. That is my personal opinion.

By the way, as much as diversity is emphasised by several organisations. And as much as all the different scenes are opening up, and as much as more and more people see the importance of the everyones right to express their own genderidentity and sexual freedom for everyone, I still see a lot of resentment and prejudice against SM. About SM being 'violence' and 'abuse'. So there is still some work to be done there too.

Eva

[Eva]

Okay Hoops, you have put me on my soapbox. I'll step down now :D

Eva