LRC Article - news!

[Manchester]

I just heard from our friendly reporter Nicola, she's sold the article about the Pearl Foundation and Janis' Living Room Concerts!

This is from her email:

"There'll be a 1200 word feature in the October issue of Diva, the lesbian magazine. It'll be out around Sep 6th. Tell all the rudies and tell them I said hi."

Great news for the Pearl Foundation.
Anne

[david uk]

that's good news anne!

was good to see nicola at the Brighton show as well as the LRC, and the interview she did with Janis was great....

for the first time in my life I will buy a lesbian magazine:)

[NinasSpaceChild]

Truly brilliant news.

I don't normally buy Diva ;) , but will certainly be buying that copy. :)

[DaveM]

That's wonderful news....and Janis may end up being deluged with orders for Living Room Concerts besides!

[Eva]

Thanks for letting us know. I'll will buy that Diva issue.

Eva

[Dougster]

Viva Diva (I said that for Eva)

[Eva]

:D Dougster.

It's a nice magazine, I think.

Eva

[Rowy]

What happened about the Observer?

[SongDragon]

Am I out of the loop or what? I've never even heard of that magazine! Then again... is it sold in the U.S.A.? I definitely want to read that article.

~Song

[Manchester]

I'll make sure you get a copy of the article... I think I'll have to go into the city for the magazine!
:D

[dutchcloggie]

Am I out of the loop or what? I've never even heard of that magazine! Then again... is it sold in the U.S.A.? I definitely want to read that article.

~Song

I can buy you a copy of DIVA and send you one if you like?

[NinasSpaceChild]

I'll have to go into the city too. :D They don't sell those types of magazines in Ashton Under Lyne. :(

[Eva]

Ridiculous, isn't it? It's a very civilised magazine.

Eva

[PeteCC]

I must admit, it's not a magazine which normally features highly on my 'must buy' list, as good as it is, but I think I may make the effort in this instance.
:)

[NinasSpaceChild]

It is ridiculous. They have no qualms selling stupid and offensive pornography, but try to buy Diva, Gay Times, Advocate etc and you have no chance.

[Eva]

I must admit, it's not a magazine which normally features highly on my 'must buy' list

That's allright, Pete. After all, it is a womens magazine. :)

Eva

[Chet]

I can buy you a copy of DIVA and send you one if you like?
I just found the magazine's web site. DC, you need to seriously reconsider your offer to send a copy to Song.

DIVA web site (http://www.divamag.co.uk/diva/)

[david uk]

I just found the magazine's web site. DC, you need to seriously reconsider your offer to send a copy to Song.

DIVA web site (http://www.divamag.co.uk/diva/)

"seriousy reconsider??" that sounds like it might be dangerous to do so:p

re: the website- they don't seem to publish the whole magazine online- just snippets...

[Des]

That's allright, Pete. After all, it is a womens magazine. :)

Eva

I buy that magazine all the time;)

[Chet]

"seriousy reconsider??" that sounds like it might be dangerous to do so:p

re: the website- they don't seem to publish the whole magazine online- just snippets...
Yes, dangerous is the right word.

[Manchester]

Call me a prude, but I'm not sure I would like a stranger sending a copy of Diva to my young daughter. That's why I offered to send Song a copy of just the article. I wouldn't call it dangerous, but have you seen the front cover of June's edition?

Obviously, it's entirely up to Song.

[dutchcloggie]

I offered to send a magazine IF SHE WANTED. I.e. if she said: Yes please, I would like that, then I would pop one inthe post. If she said: No, sorry, but I can't get that kind of mail at my house, then I would not have sent it.

I did not run out to the news stand to pop one inthe post to SongDragon. (Where would I send it to anyway?). I was just trying to be friendly and helpful, I was not forcing my magazine onto anyone or putting anyone in an awkward position.

Geez. I know how much people like lesbians in the States so I really would not send it unless asked to do so.

And also, I would hope SongDragon's parents do not read her post so surely they would not need to know she was sent 'that kind of magazine'? My parents did not know all my friends so how would they know it is a stranger sending stuff?

:confused:

Was just trying to be friendly.:(

[dutchcloggie]

I just found the magazine's web site. DC, you need to seriously reconsider your offer to send a copy to Song.

DIVA web site (http://www.divamag.co.uk/diva/)

:confused:

Two hugging women on the cover. And?

[Eva]

My two cents:

I really think you are overreacting here, Chet. Dangerous??? How?
And Anne, I understand that you wouldn't like people sending your daughter magazines if there are some explicit articles in there. But then again, SongDragon is 18. I think she can choose for herself what she would like to read or not. I'm sure Cloggie won't send her anything she wouldn't want to read or that Cloggie herself would find too explicit.

Eva

[dutchcloggie]

Hehehe. I don't even have her address.

I don't like a lot of the content in DIVA most of the time. Too much focussed on the sexual side of being a lesbian. I would buy an erotic magazine if I wanted to know where to buy the latest toys etc. So no, I would not just send that to random people.


I can see how it can be problematic to be seen with such a magazine though. And in some countries, it would be plain illegal to have such a magazine. Hence I said "I'll send you a copy IF YOU LIKE."

[David from London]

I think it's great that Janis will be in Diva. But I'm very concerned that she has had virtually no coverage in the UK press during this tour. Is it the record company not doing its job? When there weren't reviews of FINB earlier in the year I thought the papers were keeping it for the tour, but no. Janis is a wonderful singer, songwiter and performer. And yet the papers seem to ignore her. I'm sorry, but I'm angry. As I sit here listening to FINB. I think that here is one of her best ever CDs, which is generally being ignored. End of blast.

[david uk]

hmmm david, I take your point- tho there have been plenty of quality radio interviews x

[Chet]

I stand by what I wrote. And I wrote it coming from a very different culture from most of you here on the board.

Dutchcloggie is right when she said there are some countries where it is illegal to have such a magazine. Not every country is as open-minded, especially countries in the East vs those in the West.

While some of us may think there's nothing wrong about the picture of two women hugging, others may not think so. Bear in mind, ours is not the only opinion (altho we would like it to be), altho perhaps on this board, it is an opinion shared by the majority.

Janis Ian's music cuts across a lot of boundaries, but it also means she has fans from diverse backgrounds.

[SongDragon]

Woah... I didn't see this. Look, I'm allowed to recieve whatever I want to recieve. I am eighteen, no one goes through my mail even though they can. My father would never do that. The other side of my family is completely right wing and would be very upset to see me with the magazine, but that is my discretion to be worried over. A magazine can not change who you are, and my family won't censor what I read.

Thank you all for your concern, but don't worry about it. Whether I get the magazine or I get the article I will be pleased for the article and the reading material that reminds me of the wonderful event I experienced. My family will not begrudge me that no matter what form it comes in, they were glad I had a wonderful time and know I want to see that article.

~SongDragon

[Des]

You are wise beyond your years Song Dragon! Excellent post:)

DutchCloggie, I didn't know you were female? lol And you play ruggers too:D

[Manchester]

That was my first reaction. I'm just hoping that someone reads Diva and takes it to one of the broadsheets, which is what sometimes happens.

May I clarify that I have no objection to the magazine, and the cover photos is lovely, it's the tone of the teasers on the cover to get you to buy it, like DutchCloggie says, it's too sexual. I wouldn't like a child of mine being sent it by a stranger (and by that I meant myself, even though we've met, I don't actually know Song), the same goes for any kind of erotica, hetro or otherwise.

I think this has got out of hand, I respect Chets views, as I do the views of others, but while I've been out watching Janis ( a surprise ticket!) the real voice of reason has just spoken. Thank you Song.

End of story.

[Dar]

Does anybody know if this magazine is available in the States?

[Des]

Does anybody know if this magazine is available in the States?

Not sure Dar, but I could send you a copy...lol

If nobody else objects that is;)

[Dar]

I'll ask my partner if she objects to me getting a lesbian magazine. LOL

[dutchcloggie]

I stand by what I wrote. And I wrote it coming from a very different culture from most of you here on the board.

Dutchcloggie is right when she said there are some countries where it is illegal to have such a magazine. Not every country is as open-minded, especially countries in the East vs those in the West.

While some of us may think there's nothing wrong about the picture of two women hugging, others may not think so. Bear in mind, ours is not the only opinion (altho we would like it to be), altho perhaps on this board, it is an opinion shared by the majority.

Janis Ian's music cuts across a lot of boundaries, but it also means she has fans from diverse backgrounds.

Chet, you are right of course, in some countries, reading DIVA can be dangerous. However, we were talking about sending a magazine to the USA, not Saudi Arabia.

My issue is not with that fact but with the fact that I simply offered to send a magazine to Song if she wanted me to and suddenly, people were assuming that I was going to just send her a magazine without asking her first. As if I was not considerate enough. Also, people suddenly made assumptions about Song by more or less suggesting people would read her mail and that her family might react in a certain way.

That just really annoyed me. Especially because Song was being discussed without even being part of the discussion!!

That's all.

And finally, DIVA is not the worst of the magazines that are on sale in the USA :D

[Dee]

"The key to effective cross-cultural communication is knowledge. First, it is essential that people understand the potential problems of cross-cultural communication, and make a conscious effort to overcome these problems."

http://www.janisian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=611

[Manchester]

Marieke, I apologise if I have upset you with my comments. I think we both misunderstood meanings in each of our postings and we are both from the same continent! I understand you made an offer which may have been accepted or refused, it was up to Song. You are totally right that we shouldn't be censoring anybody, or making decisions on behalf of others.

I was just concerned because it took a lot of delicate negotiation for us to get family agreement for Song to attend out Living Room Concert; I didn't want to risk abusing the trust they had placed in me at the time.

It is not for me to comment on Chet's feelings, but I do know she lives in a totally different cultural environment and I respect her views too.

Can we please draw a line under this now?
Anne

[dutchcloggie]

Marieke, I apologise if I have upset you with my comments. I think we both misunderstood meanings in each of our postings and we are both from the same continent! I understand you made an offer which may have been accepted or refused, it was up to Song. You are totally right that we shouldn't be censoring anybody, or making decisions on behalf of others.

I was just concerned because it took a lot of delicate negotiation for us to get family agreement for Song to attend out Living Room Concert; I didn't want to risk abusing the trust they had placed in me at the time.

It is not for me to comment on Chet's feelings, but I do know she lives in a totally different cultural environment and I respect her views too.

Can we please draw a line under this now?
Anne

Under what? I did not know there was an issue :)

I am definately not annoyed with anyone or anything like that so no worries.

And yes, I totally understand where Chet is coming from as well. I actually Googled to read more about homosexuality and Malaysia

I respect everybody's views on this board. And, as I said, I would never just send peopel stuff without them having asked for it. If I did, that would put me in the same bracket as those people who come to your door unannounced to ask you to join them in whichever faith they happen to be promoting at the time. :eek:

Is there a Peace smiley? (If there is, it would probably be smoking something....like a Pipe of Peace but I gave up smoking and I do not want to upset peopel with smoke etc...oh hang on, that is a different thread.)

[dutchcloggie]

So, yes, DIVA in October. Janis article.

Why that late? And by God, they plan their articles a long time in advance don't they? But hey, at least they are publishing it and not just publish stuff on young, 20-year old hot dykes. At least they aknowledge there are lesbians out there who may be interested in other things than Hot Dates, Where to find the Hippest Clubs etc.

(Am I showing my age by using the word Hip? :D )

[SFBill]

Thanks for the headsup on this article. I'll be looking for DIVA this summer.
I'm sure they must carry this magazine at Differeent Light Bookstore in SF.

http://www.divamag.co.uk/diva/

[Eva]

Maybe if you mail Diva they can tell you where you can buy their magazine in the US?

Eva

[Charlie]

I will buy the magazine for the interview. I spoke to the interviewer a couple of times and was very impressed by her use of the English language. After the concert I said I still couldn't believe how pure Janis' voice still is to which she replied "it sounds so soft it could be carried away by the slightest breeze". A delightful turn of phrase isn't it.

[david uk]

Charlie- I also thought the interview she did with Janis was at least the work of someone who had done their homework and also someone who was enthusuastic... the fact that she also turned up at the Brighton show and got Janis to autograph something for her was also cool....

[Charlie]

I didn't hear the interview but I wish I had. Listening to the interviews for radio 2 I found fascinating, Janis is at ease and comes across as both witty and intelligent. My opinion of the reporter was formed solely by a couple of conversations we had. She told me she used to busk "At seventeen" which we both thought was a funny choice for a street singer to do.

[Charlie]

Would the magazine have anything ermmmmm "interesting" for a heterosexual male. You know like good articles or perhaps an interesting problem page. :o

Before any jumps in and does a character assasination this is meant as a humorous post ;)

[Eva]

Would the magazine have anything ermmmmm "interesting" for a heterosexual male. You know like good articles or perhaps an interesting problem page. :o

In fact, it does! An interview with Janis Ian. You know her... :D

Eva

[PeteCC]

Aaah, Charlie,

Seems like I've heard that 'good articles' thing before. Now, if I could only remember the magazine.......................

:)

PeteCC

(And yes, I'll be buying a copy.)