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paularoid
01-12-2008, 04:34 PM
This is really getting old!

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/73530/

AlterNet
NBC Rewrites its Own Rules to Prevent America from Hearing Kucinich
By Joshua Holland, AlterNet
Posted on January 11, 2008, Printed on January 12, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/www.alternet.org/73530/

As a political writer, I have to follow these endless primary-season debates. But when it comes to NBC's Democratic show-down in Vegas next Tuesday, I'll read the transcript and check out the highlights on YouTube, but I won't tune into NBC's live broadcast.

Here's a press release from the Kucinich campaign explaining why:

Less than 44 hours after NBC sent a congratulatory note and an invitation to Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich to participate in the Jan. 15 Democratic Presidential debate in Las Vegas, the network notified the campaign this morning it was changing its announced criteria, rescinding its invitation, and excluding Kucinich from the debate.

NBC Political Director Chuck Todd notified the Kucinich campaign this morning that, although Kucinich had met the qualification criteria publicly announced on December 28, the network was "re-doing" the criteria, excluding Kucinich, and planning to invite only Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and former senator John Edwards.

The criteria announced last month included a fourth-place or better showing in a national poll. The USA/Gallup poll earlier this month showed Kucinich in fourth place among the Democratic contenders.

In an email to the Kucinich campaign at 2:35 p.m. on Wednesday, January 9, Democratic Party debates consultant Jenny Backus wrote:

"Congratulations on another hard-fought contest. Now that New Hampshire is over, we are on to Nevada and our Presidential Debate on Tuesday January 15. This letter serves as an official invitation for your candidate to participate in the Nevada Presidential Debate at Cashman Theatre in downtown Las Vegas. You have met the criteria set by NBC and the Debate."

Todd notified the Kucinich campaign this morning that the network had decided to change the criteria and limit participation in the debate to only three candidates.

[SNIP]

The Kucinich campaign, which filed an emergency complaint with the Federal Communications Commission last week because of ABC's decision to exclude the candidate from a nationally televised debate, is considering legal action to address "the blatant disregard of the public interest in silencing public debate that dissents with the views of NBC, its parent company, GE, and all of the military contractors and their candidate-funding corporate interests. Corporate control of the media is one issue. Corporate media control of the information that is allowed to reach American citizens is much more dangerous, much more sinister, and much more un-American."

"When 'big media' exert their unbridled control over what Americans can see, hear, and read, then the Constitutional power and right of the citizens to vote is being vetoed by multi-billion corporations that want the votes to go their way," the Kucinich campaign said.

Would you consider joining me in letting NBC know that we're just sick of this nonsense?

If so, indignant-but-polite is, I've found, the best tone to take when griping to the media about their all-too-frequently-crappy political coverage.

NBC News contact form
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10285339/

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Another one for MSNBC
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Update: Here's what I sent to Todd [Update: it bounced back] and the other NBC addresses:

Dear Mr. Todd,

I’m writing to express my dismay about NBC’s decision to re-write its own previously announced criteria in order — specifically, it seems — to exclude Dennis Kucinich, the fourth-place finisher in at least one major national poll, from the Las Vegas debate.

I am not of the belief that Rep. Kucinich has a chance to win the nomination, but that's beside the point. It appears to me that our political press corps, yourself included, are simply blind to the intense feelings of frustration among many of us “out here” in America every time the media tries to narrow the ideological spectrum and limit our political debates. I am among almost 300 million people who have not had an opportunity to cast my vote in the primary, and it is the height of arrogance for you and NBC to tell me, in effect, that only 3 of the 4 candidates who met your announced criteria are acceptable choices, or that only the views of 3 of the 4 are acceptably “mainstream.”

His "viability" is not an issue; Kucinich is not in this race to win. He’s in it to influence the political discourse within the Democratic party, and as a Democratic-leaning independent, I would like to see the full spectrum of Democratic opinions aired and debated. It is maddening to have NBC deny us that process, especially so many months before the convention and with only a few small states having gone to the polls.

But even that isn't nearly as infuriating as the egregious disrespect shown to a member of the House of Representatives who’s been sent back to Washington by his constituents five times. I’ll be frank: to extend the invitation, and then rewrite your own rules in order to withdraw it makes it difficult for me to even maintain a civil tone.

I won’t be watching your debate — it will be the first one I skip — because I don’t want to support the idea that the media decides these elections and the voters are merely an afterthought. I will also write about your network’s hubris on my blog and urge my friends and acquaintances to boycott the debate as well. Hopefully, General Electric will receive a lot of correspondence like this one, see a smaller-than-expected audience and finally figure out that while it has its hands in many businesses, electing a president isn’t one that We the People will accept.

Best wishes,

Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.
© 2008 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
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Bat
01-12-2008, 06:56 PM
That sucks, indeed, Paularoid! For sure now I'm voting for him in the Primary!
I just wish I could get more people interested in finding out what he has to say...even I would like to know more, but info is hard to come by unless you go to Kucinich's site, which I plan to do more often.
Go Dennis!

paularoid
01-12-2008, 10:09 PM
That sucks, indeed, Paularoid! For sure now I'm voting for him in the Primary!
I just wish I could get more people interested in finding out what he has to say...even I would like to know more, but info is hard to come by unless you go to Kucinich's site, which I plan to do more often.
Go Dennis!
The info is hard to come by because the mainstream media doesn't seem to want anybody to hear it (for whatever reasons) and they seem to look for ways to keep it from us. Just because of all this I'm definitely going to caucus here on February 5th and as I've said before I'm stickin' to my guns. I-DUH-ho won't make a hill o' beans of difference but for me it's now the principle of the thing. Whatever happened to freedom of speech? I guess that's not quite what the deal is because Kucinich and anybody else is free to speak their mind as much as they want but what good is it if the MSM won't let anybody else HEAR that speech?

I'm seriously TICKED OFF! :mad: I mean he's got ALL the specific answers to ALL the serious problems. He really DOES!

hoops
01-12-2008, 10:51 PM
Paul,
i'm disgusted too. he has good sound answers and the powers that be don;t want to hear them. they don;t want answers, they want to keep us confused and afraid... kinda like an abusive spouse. it's sickening. i haven;t decided yet who has my vote in the end, but he may very well have it in february.
peace
hoops

paularoid
01-13-2008, 12:27 AM
It's also Paul, Gravel, and Hunter also. I like -some- things that Paul has to say, but not all of it. I like -some- things Gravel has to say, but not all of it. I can't voice any opinion about Hunter because I haven't heard anything he has to say. I'm sorry that Biden and Dodd have tossed in the towel because I liked both of them.

As much of a bull-in-a-china-shop as Biden is socially (he tends to let his mouth work before his brain kicks in) I like him because he says what he thinks and feels even if somebody doesn't like it,... and he says some d@mned good things. One of the things he said about Rudy Guiliani was that there were three things that ever came out of his mouth, a noun, a verb, and 9/11.... that's all. :D

I like Dodd because he's as protective of the U.S. Constitution as Kucinich is. He's currently leading efforts to thwart the FISA bill nonsense that's going on right now. He was the ONLY one of the candidates (when he was running) that was willing to put his candidacy on hold while he went back to DC to fight it.

If Hagel hadn't given up and thrown in the towel I would have like to have seen him run. I would really have liked to have seen a bipartisan effort put forth by both Biden and Hagel, one for president and the other for vice president.

Politics doesn't seem to be the process of finding out and deciding who's best anymore but it's now a process of seeing who can be tromped on, kicked out, and excluded from some imaginary "elite" club.

DaveM
01-13-2008, 12:47 AM
This makes no sense. What sort of "debate" is possible when potential participants are included or excluded at a whim?

paularoid
01-13-2008, 03:35 AM
This makes no sense. What sort of "debate" is possible when potential participants are included or excluded at a whim?
EXACTLY!

I hate to be called a conspiracy nut but it's sure starting to look like one.

The democratic party in Texas has even excluded him from their ballot there and he's having to press a lawsuit against them to let him on (assuming he wins). He's being supported/backed by Willie Nelson in that endevour. They've excluded him because he drew a line through (crossed out) the section on the application where it says that all candidates will support the winner regardless of who it is. So because he won't pledge to support somebody that might be a real idiot he's being excluded!

"Land of the free" my A$$!

DaveM
01-13-2008, 01:22 PM
Paul--your last post reminds me a bit of how primary elections are conducted in Minnesota (and in any number of other states I presume). Our Presidential delegates are selected by caucus, but everyone else is selected by "closed" primary. In other words, if you want to vote for one candidate from one party, you cannot vote for any other candidate from any other party. If you do, your ballot is thrown out.

This smacks of government by the party rather than government by the people. It sounds to me as if Kucinich took a symbolic step to oppose it. More power to him.

paularoid
01-13-2008, 05:29 PM
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General Electric corporate family member NBC has rewritten its criteria for including candidates in debates specifically to exclude a real peace candidate, Dennis Kucinich. GE is a major weapons manufacturer.
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/4306

Tell GE you will boycott its products and why.
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