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paularoid
11-07-2007, 06:52 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/07/enda-passes-the-house/

ENDA passes the House.

The House passed the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) passed this evening with a 235-184 vote. Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), on the verge of tears, one of two openly gay members of the House, delivered an emotional speech denouncing the efforts of conservatives who attempted to sabotage the bill with parliamentary manuevers. Frank received resounding applause. Watch it:

http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/FrankENDASpeech.320.240.flv

http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/FrankENDASpeech.320.240.jpg

http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/11/FrankENDASpeech.320.240.flv

Watch ENDA speeches from Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) here:
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=924

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hoops
11-07-2007, 07:33 PM
that is wonderful, i just hope and pray that it includes transgendered people
peace
hoops

Oak Kitten
11-08-2007, 08:19 PM
I am a great admirer of Barney Frank. I was privileged to work on his first Congressional campaign when he was still "in the closet" as far as the general public was concerned.

I am not too optimistic about this bill. Bush WILL veto it, that is for sure, and I don't think they have the votes in Congress to override. Senator Kennedy has indicated he may put the language extending protection to transgender people as well back in. Speaker Pelosi took it out in an effort to get more votes. But you have to keep skirmishing, and the momentum is shifting. It is the last desperate stand of the GOP. Things will change dramatically once Hillary is in office.

Oak

paularoid
11-08-2007, 08:50 PM
Things will change dramatically once Hillary is in office.
Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. There are other, perhaps better, alternatives.

hoops
11-09-2007, 03:23 PM
paul, she has changed her tune a lot since she decided to run. very disappointing to me, i thought i knew who i would vote for, now i don;t someone point out something good in one of em pleeeeeeeeeez
peace
hoops

Bat
11-09-2007, 11:00 PM
Well, Noel, Kucinich has submitted his motion to impeach Cheney...that sounds pretty good to me...I've taken a quiz that indicates that he is number one on my list. Hillary is up there, too, after Obama. Guess that makes me pretty liberal, eh?

paularoid
11-10-2007, 12:44 AM
I'm torn between Kucinich and Edwards. I voted for Kucinich last time he ran but I don't think he's really electable just like I didn't really think he was electable last time either. As much as I like Kucinich I think Edwards may be more electable and I may go that way.

I like -all- of the democratic candidates (with the exception of Clinton) but those are the two that I like most. If Clinton would admit that she screwed up when she endorsed Lieberman OR she could convince me that supporting Lieberman like she did really was the right thing to do then I -might- consider her,... but until that time I hold her greatly responsible for Lieberman being in office when it should have gone to Lamont. Lieberman in office (a real fiasco) has been nothing but a lapdog for Bu$h and Cheney,..... in -my- opinion.

DaveM
11-10-2007, 02:10 PM
At the risk of speaking heresy, I am rapidly losing my enthusiasm for Hillary Clinton. Over the past year or so, she has gone from appearing strong and outspoken to becoming "the plastic candidate", low-key, inoffensive, and speaking mainly in favor of the status quo. She has gone on record as supporting the Patriot Act as well as the death penalty. She has been adamant about her long-time advocacy for national health care--I'll bet will see the volume turned down on that before long.

In all fairness, I should not single out Mrs. Clinton because practically ever Democrat who has even considered running for President has made bold statements promising the next best thing to revolution, only to decide that what the public wanted instead was.....waffles. We've seen that with "the revolution at the polls" last November and I am very much afraid we're going to see it again a year from now.

Alas, these are not our fathers' Democrats. Mind, we don't need another Hubert Humphrey, Fritz Mondale, or LBJ, either. Though either would be better than what we got instead.

hoops
11-10-2007, 05:01 PM
thank you bat. i'll look more closely then. I guess tight now i have little or no trust in anyone who is involved in the the US government. I guess i'm tired of being lied to, i'm sick of being talked down to, i'm sick of not being given the whole story. i don't know who to trust and it is scarey.
peace
Hoops

Bat
11-10-2007, 10:14 PM
thank you bat. i'll look more closely then. I guess tight now i have little or no trust in anyone who is involved in the the US government. I guess i'm tired of being lied to, i'm sick of being talked down to, i'm sick of not being given the whole story. i don't know who to trust and it is scarey.
peace
Hoops



I think we all feel exactly the same way, Hoops...those of us who feel at all.
I just wish we could rile up the rest of the country. Wonder what would happen if we had a 99% turnout at the polls? I'd love to see it, but it will never happen because the people are for the most part indifferent to the whole idea of government. Let Joe do it. I wonder what it would take to make people at least aware of what is going on, short of mass destruction?

hoops
11-11-2007, 03:57 PM
hmmm, let me think hmmmm, what are the two things in life that they say everyone must do...death and taxes? how about we add one more, voting hmmm we need a scheme, a plan, an underhanded upperhandedness. a big fat lie to make it sound like it is law...they do it...nah, it's not worth it to be like them even if it were to get out objectives met. we could ask, we could beg, we could cry i dunno, we could try.
peace
hoops