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paularoid
11-04-2007, 12:08 PM
http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/doctor-g-bush-has-symptoms-of-presenile-dementia/1568/

Doctor: G Bush has symptoms of presenile dementia

It is an article of faith with millions of Americans, most of them on the left, that George W. Bush is stupid. Many reasonable people think his policies are ill-advised, but millions more insist Bush must be a moron because he sounds stupid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo

The president's tortured "Bushisms" are chronicled daily and have been collected in books. Two of the more notorious are "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family" and "Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream."

But something doesn't compute. Fred Smith, the founder of Federal Express and a Yale pal of both Bush and John Kerry, says Bush is five times smarter than people think he is. Cynics deride what passes for scholarship at the Harvard Business School, but the course work for the two-year MBA isn't easy. A grading curve forces a small number of students to fail, and Bush didn't fail.

So why does Bush sound stupid? One doctor thinks he shows signs of "presenile dementia," or an early onset of Alzheimer's disease.

This summer, Joseph Price, a self-described "country doctor" in Carsonville, Mich., was reading a long article in The Atlantic about Bush's speaking style. Author James Fallows alluded to Bush's malapropisms and to speculation that Bush had a learning disorder or dyslexia. But those conditions generally manifest themselves in childhood. Furthermore, Fallows wrote, "through his forties Bush was perfectly articulate."

Dr. Price's children happened to have given him a daily tear-off calendar of "Bushisms" for Christmas. "They are horrible, but they are also diagnostic," Price says. When he read that Bush had spoken clearly and performed well while debating Texas politician Ann Richards in 1994, Price thought: "My God, the only way you can explain that is by being Alzheimer's."

In a letter to be published in The Atlantic's October issue, Price calls presenile dementia "a fairly typical Alzheimer's situation that develops significantly earlier in life. . . . President Bush's `mangled' words are a demonstration of what physicians call `confabulation' and are almost specific to the diagnosis of a true dementia." He adds that Bush should be "started on drugs that offer the possibility of retarding the slow but inexorable course of the disease."

Yes, I asked for a second opinion. University of Massachusetts neurology professor Dr. Daniel Pollen thinks it is bootless to speculate about Bush's condition without a formal neuropsychological assessment. "I think it's unfair to say somebody has or does not have a dementia as an analysis based on his public utterances," says Pollen, who is not a Bush supporter. Noting that Bush spoke well in his debates with both Richards and Al Gore, Pollen adds that Bush's "peak performances are not in the range I would consider for anybody to have Alzheimer's disease in the near future."

Suppose Price is right. What effect might his observation have on the 2004 election? Absolutely none. The White House isn't going to start speculating about an incipient medical condition that might make the president look bad. When I forwarded Price's comments to the White House, it sent me Bush's 2001 and 2003 physical exams, which show normal neurological functions. "There is nothing to suggest that there has been any change from those reports," says White House spokeswoman Erin Healy.

There is ample precedent for papering over presidents' medical shortcomings. Stanford Medical School professor Herbert Abrams and others have argued that Ronald Reagan was incapacitated from the day he was shot in March of 1981 through the succeeding seven years of his presidency. In their 1988 book, "Landslide," Jane Mayer and Doyle McManus report that one White House staffer considered Reagan's condition so bad in 1987 that he suggested invoking the transfer-of-power provisions of the 25th Amendment. That idea went nowhere fast.

As for the Democrats, they have no incentive to medicalize a condition they so enjoy teeing off on: Bush's seemingly goofy stupidity. Kerry suggests that Bush's bicycle has training wheels; Kerry's wife suggests that people who oppose her husband's health schemes are idiots. The Democrats would rather feel superior to their opponents than beat them, and so far they are doing a very good job.

Alex Beam

hoops
11-04-2007, 02:43 PM
if such a thing were true and dr's knew it and Bush knew it, wouldn;t it be totally unthinkable that the president keep, and or rerun for his position. i know we all have problems, and i am no one to say anything against someone with cognitive problems, but i'm not the president of ANYTHING. this is a scarey proposal on G.W.'s account. are we where we are because of a cognitively unfit president?
peace
hoops

Dee
11-04-2007, 04:09 PM
Bush on the Couch

By Justin Frank

September 2004

If one of my patients frequently said one thing and did another, I would want to know why. If I found that he often used words that hid their true meaning, and affected a persona that obscured the nature of his actions, I would grow more concerned. If he presented an inflexible worldview characterized by an oversimplified distinction between right and wrong, good and evil, allies and enemies, I would question his ability to grasp reality. And if his actions revealed an unacknowledged even sadistic indifference to human suffering, wrapped in pious claims of compassion, I would worry about the safety of the people whose lives he touched.

For the last three years, I have observed with increasing alarm the inconsistencies and denials of such an individual. But he is not one of my patients. He is our President. He wants to remain our President for four more years, and he intends to do so on his own terms. On August 27, the eve of the Republican Convention, Bush said to New York Times reporters Sanger and Bumiller that he would resist going on the couch to rethink decisions.

Since the Swift Boat controversy hit center stage in mid-August both the ads and Bush’s refusal to take responsibility for them we again see his reluctance to examine his conscience. Instead he remains mired in his long-standing pattern of denial and blame. Responsibility is something this president flees at all costs. It is a behavior pattern that began long before Bush became president, governor, or even a college student. It even began before Bush had become an alcoholic (he finally stopped drinking at age forty, with the help of his religion), though his response to criticism is typical of untreated alcoholics.

(much more (http://hnn.us/articles/7106.html))

Darlene
11-04-2007, 04:18 PM
I saw the videos about Bush and it is unthinkable that we elected this man as our President (well, he really wasn't elected the last time and I didn't vote for him either). We can not afford to let this man be in office any longer, He is a Danger and Threat to our National Security and He Really Does have Access to Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Darlene

Randy & Betty in Pa
11-04-2007, 04:23 PM
Meanwhile in the Oval Office...

A four star General runs into the Oval office and says "Mr. President, you just pushed the button to launch the nuks against Iran..."

The President turns and looks amazingly befuddled.... "oh sorry, I thunked it said it was the Nuclar Lunch button??? My Bad....I thunked it was to call the maid.... Awwww hell yer a butler... Kin ya git me a peanut butter, mustard an sauerkraut sandwich?"

REDJACK FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!

Best to all

R.

DaveM
11-04-2007, 04:37 PM
Similar observations were made by more than one doctor during Ronald Reagan's second term in office. He of course DID develop Alzheimer's, but at a much more advanced age than G.W. Bush.

More than one physician has also observed that Bush shows many indicators of a psychiatric condition. Given his history, I can't say it's out of the question. But long-distance diagnosis is a rather dicey thing to attempt. Much as I regard Bush as a major league bozo, I don't know that anyone could put a definitive label on his problem without lengthy up close and personal consultation with him.

hoops
11-04-2007, 06:16 PM
davem,
i have to agree with you..without actually sitting down with the man and going through a full psych history, i couldn't in good conscience, give him any kind of diagnosis, or pretend to know how his thoughts and actions come to be. he's a terrible, dangerous president, that i can say from experience, that should be reason enough to get rid of him but it isn;t for some odd reason. even with a diagnosois of psychosis, this administration would find a way to turn it to his advantage.
peace
hoops

aabram
11-05-2007, 09:28 AM
If the evidence is there....why the HECK is Britain still supporting him...GET HIM OUTTA here and down to the funny farm ......before he does any more damage to the world..... :eek:

DaveM
11-05-2007, 01:06 PM
Either that or perhaps they should start interviewing at the funny farm for our next President. I'll bet they could come up with someone better able to do the job. After all, our current leader does not appear to be taking his meds.

hoops
11-05-2007, 07:16 PM
hey...don't insult the funny farm like that (just kidding) i have met many people who would have made great leaders, and many more who thought they were great leaders...now criminally insane is something completely different.
peace
hoops