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paularoid
04-27-2006, 11:54 AM
"Neil Young lets loose a war cry"
The world awaits Young's most powerful album in years, a disc fueled by
outrage at Washington. The artist's brother gives a sneak preview:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060426.wxneil26/EmailBNStory/Entertainment/home
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Wildflower Fever
04-27-2006, 08:56 PM
"Neil Young lets loose a war cry"
The world awaits Young's most powerful album in years, a disc fueled by
outrage at Washington. The artist's brother gives a sneak preview:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060426.wxneil26/EmailBNStory/Entertainment/home
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Finally, someone with a full-throttled assault. Can't you just hear the Bushie's crying liberal hollywood foul?:D Also, Pearl Jam releases a new album on Tuesday, May 2 that is equally politically charged and angry.
paularoid
04-27-2006, 10:58 PM
Finally, someone with a full-throttled assault. Can't you just hear the Bushie's crying liberal hollywood foul?:D Also, Pearl Jam releases a new album on Tuesday, May 2 that is equally politically charged and angry.
There's a couple of others as well. Dixie Chicks have a new one due out if it isn't already. That one's been mentioned here somewhere before. Just go to their site and you can listen to the number in question right there online and get the lyrics right there on their front page. Pink also has a new album out with a song addressed to the president. I like -all- these folks 'cause they say what's on their mind and F--K anybody that doesn't like it. :D
Here's where you can watch and hear Pink's new song "Dear Mr. President" live online at YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eDJ3cuXKV4
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I've just gotten through transcoding the thing and uploading it to Rapidshare. I decreased the quality to bring into a more manageable size (just a little over 8 meg). The link for it is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/19475860/Pink-DearMrPresident_live_.mpg.html
I can make it higher quality but the size increases drastically. This'll do for now.
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Coffee Roaster
04-28-2006, 09:17 AM
Rickie Lee Jones' last album also had some good swipes at our "president", including a rant on the Patriot Act and a wickedly good takedown of Bush in the tune "Ugly Man". Well worth a listen.
paularoid
04-28-2006, 12:24 PM
Rickie Lee Jones' last album also had some good swipes at our "president", including a rant on the Patriot Act and a wickedly good takedown of Bush in the tune "Ugly Man". Well worth a listen.
Since I've got just about everything else that she (Rickie Lee Jones) ever put out and since I'm going to pick up my new Tony Monaco CD today, I guess I'll just have to have a look and see if they've got it. If they don't then maybe I'll just have to order it in.
In the meantime have a look at this. It's a piece in the New York Times about Neil Young.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/28/arts/music/28youn.html?ex=1146888000&en=ae71895261934959&ei=5070&emc=eta1
Neil Young's 'Living With War' Shows He Doesn't Like It
ALSO, you can listen to Neil Young's new album here for free:
http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23233/
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dutchcloggie
05-02-2006, 02:43 AM
The Guardian published a little article about Neil Young's attack on Bush. They felt it was a little easy for him to attack Bush now that everybody else is doing it. They were defending the Dixie Chicks for speaking out 3 years ago when it was not yet fashionable to do so. They jeopardised their carreer by speaking out. Young won't be hurt one bit by this. After all, he is Canadian so people will simply take no notice if they disagree.
Mind you, I don't have a problem with Bush Bashing. The more the better. But I do think it is fashionable and a safe thing to do at the moment. And it wasn't 3 years ago.
Wildflower Fever
05-02-2006, 08:40 AM
The Guardian published a little article about Neil Young's attack on Bush. They felt it was a little easy for him to attack Bush now that everybody else is doing it. They were defending the Dixie Chicks for speaking out 3 years ago when it was not yet fashionable to do so. They jeopardised their carreer by speaking out. Young won't be hurt one bit by this. After all, he is Canadian so people will simply take no notice if they disagree.
Mind you, I don't have a problem with Bush Bashing. The more the better. But I do think it is fashionable and a safe thing to do at the moment. And it wasn't 3 years ago.
Good point. Pearl Jam also risked their career a few years ago with "Bushleaguer" on Riot Act. Whenever they performed it live, Eddie Vedder wore a Elvis Jacket and a Bush mask. He would then commence to punch the effigy, and throw it on the ground while stomping on it. Many audience members would leave, booing. Their new album, out today, is pure anti-Bush and anti-war, without mentioning names this time. They are very good friends with Young, and were his backing band on "Mirror Ball". I don't think we can prove that he's doing it to be safe, he's just always been hesitant to attack America, always feeling like an outsider.
dutchcloggie
05-02-2006, 09:16 AM
Let's not forget that Neil Young is actually not an out-and-out lefty, like some other artists have always been. He was, for example, in favour of The Patriot Act. So I guess we should not throw him on the same heap as the artists we all assume will be opposed to Bush anyway. Actually, maybe that makes his opposition more interesting as he always seemed to sort of be in the middle of the political spectrum...or at leat, that is how he struck me at times.
So perhaps on a personal level this is a massive shift in focus for him. But I really do believe there is a bandwagon going around and I feel it will take many more people.
Speaking of bandwagon, I read a really really really nasty review of FITNB. Someone who clearly never liked Janis in the first place. He accused her of, throughout her career, jumping on all kinds of bandwagons (Folk, balads, bubblegum pop and now, with FITNB, it is folk again.) I know everyone posts reviews of FITNB but this review is so nasty, I almost wanted to post it here as his personal dislike for Janis' music shines through so hard that you just can not take the review seriously. Almost made me laugh.
paularoid
05-02-2006, 03:13 PM
You folks all jumping on the "let's-all-joke-around-about-Neil-Young" bandwagon DO remember the song 'Ohio' put out by 'Crosby, Stills, Nash, and YOUNG' don't you? Remember Kent State, OHIO where four college students were SHOT over protests about Vietnam? That song by 'Crosby, Stills, Nash, and YOUNG' was put out in protest of that shooting. Seems to me that was a long time ago so maybe,.. just MAYBE Neil Young's been at it just a bit longer than you're giving him credit for.
Not knowing anyone's ages here I can't say for sure, but I would be willing to bet that Neil Young may have been doing protest songs well before a few of you were even a twinkle in anybody's eye so to speak.
Admittedly I'm not that much of a fan of Neil Young and his music but anybody that is willing to speak out at any time against our own version of the biblical beast(s) that resides in or near the oval office in the Whitehouse in D.C. right now soars right up to the top of MY list.
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I've never exactly been a huge fan of Neil Young either Paularoid, tho I do think he's written some great songs.
However, I am damn proud that someone born in my country has the courage to speak up against the unbelievable atrocities that the leader of your country stubbornly clings to as the "right thing" ... in his own mind ... at home and abroad.
Bush's notion of "the right thing" for Iraq was a disaster for America
President Bush got the country into an unnecessary war on a false basis. The President says he would have attacked and occupied Iraq even if he knew then what he does now - that Saddam had no WMD, no al-Qaeda connection, and posed no imminent threat to the United States; that the war after the war would cost hundreds of billions, kill hundreds of Americans and wound thousands; that we would transform "Saddam's torture chamber" into America's torture chamber; that these acts, this war, this occupation, and our arrogance, would stain our reputation, erode our credibility, leach away our power to persuade, strengthen our enemies, and wear out our forces fighting another losing "political" war - a war from which someday, having spent billions of dollars and lost countless American lives, we will retreat without victory and (having killed so many Iraqi civilians) without honor. "We did the right thing," Bush says. The right thing?
Suppose we had done the wrong thing. Set aside the thousands of human beings who would still be alive, and the grief of those they left behind. Follow the money instead. If we had done the "wrong thing" and not invaded Iraq, how might we have spent the estimated $144 billion the war and occupation have cost to date? How much security against terrorism would that have bought? In an invaluable study, published as chart on the Op-Ed page of the August 8 New York Times, the Center for American Progress supplies some answers.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200409u/cd2004-09-01
Seriously, I don't get it. Bush now has an approval rating of a mere 32% (http://www.abc.net.au/correspondents/content/2006/s1626716.htm)! Why is this buffoon still in charge?
paularoid
05-02-2006, 05:09 PM
Why is this buffoon still in charge?
Maybe we need to recruit Monica Lewinsky to give him an under-the-desk knobjob so that he can be impeached. :rolleyes: Apparently telling the public of the whole world an outright LIE resulting in the death of THOUSANDS of people is not an impeachable offense, whereas getting a knobjob under the desk in the oval office that didn't hurt anybody (physically) IS! :mad:
Let's just recruit ol' Monica for the good of the country and have her repeat her performance (for the good of the country of course). If that's what it takes then so be it!
And by the way, just to repeat something I edited into a previous message earlier, I've transcoded the song by Pink, "Dear Mr. President" and uploaded it to Rapidshare. The link is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/19475860/Pink-DearMrPresident_live_.mpg.html
It's around 8 meg or so.
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Wildflower Fever
05-02-2006, 06:55 PM
You folks all jumping on the "let's-all-joke-around-about-Neil-Young" bandwagon DO remember the song 'Ohio' put out by 'Crosby, Stills, Nash, and YOUNG' don't you? Remember Kent State, OHIO where four college students were SHOT over protests about Vietnam? That song by 'Crosby, Stills, Nash, and YOUNG' was put out in protest of that shooting. Seems to me that was a long time ago so maybe,.. just MAYBE Neil Young's been at it just a bit longer than you're giving him credit for.
Not knowing anyone's ages here I can't say for sure, but I would be willing to bet that Neil Young may have been doing protest songs well before a few of you were even a twinkle in anybody's eye so to speak.
Admittedly I'm not that much of a fan of Neil Young and his music but anybody that is willing to speak out at any time against our own version of the biblical beast(s) that resides in or near the oval office in the Whitehouse in D.C. right now soars right up to the top of MY list.
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Paularoid, I'm not disagreeing with you, but it is true part of the reason CSNY parted ways was Neil was not as political as say, Stephen Stills. He's sort of childish in the way he doesn't like anyone else to have input, and that's why he largely remains solo. Even when he's political, it's issues of his choosing, for example, "this note's for you", about his distaste for corporate music sponsors. Then, he went through that wierd "genre-shifting phase" in the 70's. I think everyone's a bit right with their opines, but i think it's true he hasn't always been that liberal. Remember when Dylan refused early on to outright challenge the Viet War? He said, his music was his own and he didn't want to be a spokesman for any generation.
paularoid
05-03-2006, 12:48 AM
I have no real arguments re: Neil Young and many other's opinions about him really. Best thing to do actually is go and listen/watch Sibila Vargas grill him on the subject for a TV show and get his own reaction and answers to almost all, if not indeed all of the questions raised. That can be seen here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RhT6BIChuXw&search=Neil%20Young
I think he acquits himself quite well,.... even if he is a bit <insert label here>.
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I downloaded it, transcoded it into mpeg format so it should play on just about anything, and then I uploaded it to Rapidshare. The link is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/19577747/NeilYoung-ShowbizTonight.mpg.html
Download it and check it out for yourselves.
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