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ponytail
02-10-2007, 12:23 PM
Is anybody else aware of this group and what they're doing? I think it's a brilliant idea!

http://wa-doma.org/

What we are about:

The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance seeks to defend equal marriage in this state by challenging the Washington Supreme Court’s ruling on Andersen v. King County. This decision, given in July 2006, declared that a “legitimate state interest” allows the Legislature to limit marriage to those couples able to have and raise children together. Because of this “legitimate state interest,” it is permissible to bar same-sex couples from legal marriage.

The way we are challenging Andersen is unusual: using the initiative, we are working to put the Court’s ruling into law. We will do this through three initiatives. The first would make procreation a requirement for legal marriage. The second would prohibit divorce or legal separation when there are children. The third would make the act of having a child together the legal equivalent of a marriage ceremony.

Absurd? Very. But there is a rational basis for this absurdity. By floating the initiatives, we hope to prompt discussion about the many misguided assumptions which make up the Andersen ruling. By getting the initiatives passed, we hope the Supreme Court will strike them down as unconstitutional and thus weaken Andersen itself. And at the very least, it should be good fun to see the social conservatives who have long screamed that marriage exists for the sole purpose of procreation be forced to choke on their own rhetoric.
Initiative 957

If passed by Washington voters, the Defense of Marriage Initiative would:

* add the phrase, “who are capable of having children with one another” to the legal definition of marriage;
* require that couples married in Washington file proof of procreation within three years of the date of marriage or have their marriage automatically annulled;
* require that couples married out of state file proof of procreation within three years of the date of marriage or have their marriage classed as “unrecognized;”
* establish a process for filing proof of procreation; and
* make it a criminal act for people in an unrecognized marriage to receive marriage benefits.

Rkitko
02-10-2007, 12:41 PM
Yep :)
http://www.janisian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2892

I live in the state capital--if there's any rally at the capital building (right across the lake from me), you can bet I'll be there!

ponytail
02-10-2007, 01:23 PM
Wow! How did I miss that thread?:o

Eva
02-10-2007, 02:34 PM
I wanted to write something really bad here Ponytail. But then remembered this is a family MB... :o

Eva

Dee
02-10-2007, 03:11 PM
* add the phrase, “who are capable of having children with one another” to the legal definition of marriage

I think that one needs a little rephrasing. I was capable of becoming and nearly did become a daddy in my teens. :eek:

Could ya faint?

DaveM
02-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Hmmm....and technically, two ovums could be fused to produce a fertile embryo. To my knowledge it hasn't been done yet, but it's within the realm of possibility.

Bat
02-10-2007, 06:27 PM
So....that would mean that any woman beyond menopause, or any man who had an orchidectomy (for any reason) couldn't get married? I do wish the stupid legislators and holier-than-thou types would get their noses out of all of our....
business.

Rkitko
02-10-2007, 06:42 PM
Well, the beauty of this is that the initiative is not proposed by a legislator, nor is it a serious attempt to enact the legislation. It's only goal is to expose how moronic the state supreme court ruling regarding procreation and marriage. The court basically noted that it's in the state's interest to encourage partnerships that can advance procreation and that was their justification for not striking down the Defense of Marriage Act, which defined marriage as something only a man and woman can join together in. They hope to weaken that ruling by having this obviously unconstitutional legislation pass and get struck down by the court, putting them in the awkward position of arguing against their former opinion.

It's clever. I like it. And I've already sent them a check in support of the initiative.

Political theatre at its best.

Bat
02-10-2007, 06:46 PM
They hope to weaken that ruling by having this obviously unconstitutional legislation pass and get struck down by the court, putting them in the awkward position of arguing against their former opinion.


A perfect Gilbert & Sullivan plot/paradox! Excellent, RKitko! and worthy of support!