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Dee
07-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Nicotine in a bottle: U.S. drink Nic Lite may soon be available in Canada (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/23072006/2/xhealth-nicotine-bottle-u-s-drink-nic-lite-soon-available.html)
27 minutes ago

TORONTO (CP) - Canadian smokers may soon have a new alternative to lighting up a cigarette to soothe their need for nicotine - and it comes in a bottle.

Nic Lite, a lemon-flavoured, water-based nicotine drink that contains four milligrams of organic nicotine - equivalent to the amount of the drug found in two cigarettes - may soon be landing a spot on store shelves on this side of the border.

In a statement released in June, the makers of Nic Lite said they plan to roll out the product in more than 50 U.S. airports, targeting nictoine-addicted airline passengers facing the agony of smoke-free flights.

"We attempted to find other products that might have the same biological effect on people to help them when they can't smoke, or in our case, when they can't smoke and shouldn't smoke," said Joseph Knight, CEO of the California-based Nico Worldwide Inc., the makers of Nic Lite.

"We tried a lot of different product combinations and herbs and things, and the only thing that really works is the nicotine molecule itself."

Knight said his company has filed an application to Health Canada to bring the product to Canada.

"We're hoping that in the next two to three months we would have our clearances in place," Knight said in a phone interview from Oxnard, Calif.

The product is being touted as a way to cope with smoking bans, which proves timely for Ontario and Quebec where enclosed workplaces and public places went smoke-free on May 31.

Health Canada spokesman Paul Duchesne said the product would be labelled as a natural health product but isn't approved for sale in Canada.

"Health Canada will only authorize for sale those products which it deems of high quality and safe and effective for over-the-counter use," Duchesne wrote in an email to The Canadian Press.

Nico Worldwide Inc. may have been dealt a blow in distributing the product in the United States. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration told the company in June that its product doesn't meet the definition of a dietary supplement.

The company had cited a 1993 New England of Journal of Medicine article which stated that nicotine is a naturally occurring compound in many vegetables including cauliflower, eggplant and tomatoes, to support its dietary supplement claim.

"The mere presence of nicotine in foods . . . without any evidence that these foods were promoted for their nicotine content does not constitute 'marketing' nicotine as a food or dietary supplement," wrote Vasilios Frankos of the FDA's dietary supplements programs division.

Knight said the FDA originally approved Nic Lite in 2004 and that his company's lawyers plan to meet with the government agency in Washington.

Some experts are questioning how effective Nic Lite is in its delivery of nicotine.

Even nicotine replacement therapies such as the patch and gum don't transmit nicotine to the brain as quickly as a cigarette, said Joanna Cohen, director of research and training for the Ontario Tobacco Research Unit.

"Nicotine water you have to ingest, it has to go into your stomach, you have to absorb whatever there is in there, and it's probably quite dilute, and then eventually it's going to have to get your brain."

Cohen said she doubts nicotine water is the ideal way for a quick nicotine hit.

"That wouldn't be your method of choice if you want to help to curb a craving," she said. "You'd want something a bit faster."

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BAD, BAD, BAD idea. I think I'm gonna go puke now.

Gummi
07-23-2006, 03:58 PM
I think that it could be a good idea for nicotine adddicts in smoke free flights. But other then that i don't think so.

Eva
07-23-2006, 04:16 PM
I think it's silly. By the way, nicotine is not the only reason I smoke. There is a certain ritual in lighting a cigarette which I like. Well, not if I am frantically looking for the package and/or my lighter when I am in a hurry. But more to do it slowly and enjoy it. Especially the first draws. I had that even more when I rolled my cigarettes myself. It took time to do that and I found it very relaxing. What I am trying to say that drinking nicotine is not the same as a cigarette. But that's just me...

Eva

PS: Yes, I know that smoking is bad for me.

Rkitko
07-23-2006, 07:44 PM
PS: Yes, I know that smoking is bad for me.
That's one of the curiosities of human behavior I still don't understand. "I know (insert vice here) is bad for me, but I still do it." My personal vice? Sloth. I know not exercising much isn't great for me, yet I continue to stick to my ways. What will it take to jostle me loose from this rut? I desire to change, have the knowledge on how to do so, yet don't. Sometimes I don't even understand myself!

Dee
07-24-2006, 02:04 AM
What I am trying to say that drinking nicotine is not the same as a cigarette. But that's just me...

Eva

PS: Yes, I know that smoking is bad for me.

Well maybe we could try it flambe'd Eva, and suck in the smoke that way. LOL


"We attempted to find other products that might have the same biological effect on people to help them when they can't smoke, or in our case, when they can't smoke and shouldn't smoke," said Joseph Knight, CEO of the California-based Nico Worldwide Inc., the makers of Nic Lite.

Obviously not a smoker.

david uk
07-24-2006, 02:34 AM
I think that it could be a good idea for nicotine adddicts in smoke free flights. But other then that i don't think so.

I hadn't thought of that.....


but other than that, I'm with Dee in the title of the thread :p

ponytail
07-24-2006, 09:53 AM
I know this isn't the case, but I keep imagining this drink as water that tastes like a cigarette. Well, if it's on a plane, at least there are barf bags right there...:eek:

Eva
07-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Well, if it's on a plane, at least there are barf bags right there...:eek:

Barf bags with advertisement on it. A famous cigarettebrand maybe? :D

Eva

Dee
07-24-2006, 02:52 PM
Actually I read (somewhere) that they are doing ads on those now.

Perhaps for Gravol? :p

KarenSews2
07-24-2006, 02:56 PM
Why do I keep getting a mental image of spent butts floating in a glass???

Dee
07-24-2006, 03:28 PM
Hey, that gives me an idea!

Now where did I put that blender ...?

hoops
07-24-2006, 07:08 PM
i was talking to a friend the oether day and she was in a class where the instructor asked " if you knew you had one week to live what would you do?" her immediate response" in her head" was "i'd smoke like a fiend' when he later asked then why don't you do it now...she had to come up with a new answer...lol

i was in an outpaitient day program for about six weeks where they treat people with mental illnesses and/or people with chemcial dependancies...one of the services they provided was accupuncture, but you had to have chenmical depenency to get it. i was the only one...out of about 30 people, who didn't have one, so my advocate, who is also a good friend, made one up...caffeine...so i told , ok now i MUST have chocolate everyday, cause i don;'t wanna lie :)

peace
hoops

DaveM
07-25-2006, 12:02 AM
I had a course of acupuncture as part of a treatment program for depression and chemical dependency (alcohol). Spent 40 minutes per afternoon which some 20-odd needles sticking out of my head and hands (if I recall correctly, it was seven in each ear, five on top of the head, and two or three on each hand).

Never really did notice any effect from it, apart from being relaxed after sitting quietly for 40 minutes. Several years later, I read of a controlled study in which one group of CD patients were given the traditional 28 day treatment course, while another was given acupuncture only. Recovery rate among both groups was identical, leading some to conclude that acupuncture was as effective as "treatment" in breaking addictions.

Cynical Dave here noticed that they did not so much as mention another possibility: that neither technique was of any real value.

Conversely, as a counterpart to the nicotine soda or whatever it is, there is also an alcohol inhaler out there.