iTunes question

[janisian]

I've been burning CD's off a playlist (called "Show songs") to use for pre-show music. iTunes suddenly told me I was only licensed to burn 7 of a song I'd purchased on iTunes from that playlist.
Checked and checked and discovered I'd purchased the "Missa Luba." Since I own it, I deleted the music from iTunes (though now that I think of it, I moved it to the recycle bin but didn't empty the bin... hm...), then re-loaded it from my own CD.
Same message.
Went ahead and created a new playlist.
Same message.
Seems pretty stupid if the DRM on iTunes covers any song you purchased once from them, even if you're taking it off your own CD's.
Any suggestions on how to get around this?
Thanks
Janis

[Kathleen Brogan]

The same thing has happened to me. I attempted to burn CDs in I-tunes. Some of the files came from songs I downloaded from CDs, some were rendered from cassettes and lps, and some were bought from I-tunes. I guess if you make more that 7 copies they think you're burning them for commercial use. I ended up copying an already burned disc to others so that I had the amount of copies I needed.

[richthelandlord]

If you've got the tune you want actually burned onto a proper CD already, you can make a near lossless .wav copy using this:

http://cdexos.sourceforge.net/

Once you've got the music in .wav format you can burn as many copies to CD as you like because you've stripped the drm layer off.

The same tool is absolutely great for ripping cds you own into mp3 format for pretty much any media player.

Hopefully that'll help.

[paularoid]

I used CDex for years without a problem but then a couple of years ago it quit working on my systems for some unexplainable reason. Fortunately just about at that time Audiograbber went to FREE status and I've been using that without a hitch since. Well actually I've been using dBpoweramp but that's not one that I'd suggest for the average joe. I often use Audiograbber when I want something quick. It can be found here (http://www.audiograbber.org/download.html):

http://www.audiograbber.org/download.html

I think that perhaps CDex quit working because I've become paranoid on the net and my protections might be preventing it from working the way it should. I don't -know- that to be true but that's what I suspect since a lot of other things quit working since then (but I've found ways around that).

If anybody wants to try dBpoweramp it can be found here (http://www.dbpoweramp.com/):

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

I'd suggest Audiograbber before dBpoweramp though.

[richthelandlord]

I think that perhaps CDex quit working because I've become paranoid on the net and my protections might be preventing it from working the way it should. I don't -know- that to be true but that's what I suspect since a lot of other things quit working since then (but I've found ways around that).


This system is locked down harder than a white hat in a western and CDex still works fine... might be worth experimenting with a later version, because occasionally a windows update breaks stuff, but then the developer fixes it afterwards?

[paularoid]

This system is locked down harder than a white hat in a western and CDex still works fine... might be worth experimenting with a later version, because occasionally a windows update breaks stuff, but then the developer fixes it afterwards?

Actually I think the reverse may be true because I always had the latest version and one of the last updates (can't remember which) for CDex is what didn't work. I just didn't bother to downgrade to the previous version. As it is there are no worries for me because there are many viable alternatives that work just as well and perhaps better in some cases or for some things. Audiograbber works well in that it's got the ability to rip to -numerous- formats where I believe CDex is limited. I stand to be corrected in this however because it's been so long since I've used CDex. If I remember correctly CDex can rip to straight .wav or with the addition of the correct codec (LAME) it can rip to .mp3. Audiograbber can rip to just about any format there is I believe. Again, I stand to be corrected on this if needed. :rolleyes:

[richthelandlord]

If I remember correctly CDex can rip to straight .wav or with the addition of the correct codec (LAME) it can rip to .mp3. Audiograbber can rip to just about any format there is I believe. Again, I stand to be corrected on this if needed. :rolleyes:

The version I use (1.7 beta4) included LAME as part of the standard install.

I do use audiograbber for other purposes though, such as digitising analogue cassettes... a 20-year-old Walkman D6C Pro is still the best tool I've found for live recordings - with a crossed-pair it's excellent for 'unplugged' sets, but hang it off the soundboard and it rocks hard too. :)

[CharlieD]

I like using freeware such as Exact Audio Copy and CDBurnerXP, all easy to find and with good options for audiophiles. I've very rarely used iTunes for burning playlists, so I haven't encountered the problem you describe, and consequently have never had to come up with a work-around/solution for it!

[richthelandlord]

CDBurnerXP works very well with Windows 7 too - just to place that on the record. :)

Hopefully Janis will come back to this thread to tell us she's solved the problem, and how.

[paularoid]

The version I use (1.7 beta4) included LAME as part of the standard install.

I do use audiograbber for other purposes though, such as digitising analogue cassettes... a 20-year-old Walkman D6C Pro is still the best tool I've found for live recordings - with a crossed-pair it's excellent for 'unplugged' sets, but hang it off the soundboard and it rocks hard too. :)

Okay I remember that now... I think. It's been a -long- time since I used it but I think I remember that they included it in the last version I tried to use. The first version I used (a very LONG time ago) didn't include the LAME codec but included a link to and instructions for retrieving it and adding it in so that it could be used. I think LAME has to be added in to Audiograbber as well but don't quote me on that.

-I- use Audiograbber for doing audio cassettes as well... sometimes. Occasionally (very occasionally) dBpoweramp has problems with cassette/vinyl recordings and then the Audiograbber comes out to pick up the slack.

By the way (anybody and everybody that's interested), out of all the programs mentioned by all the different people so far (with the exception of iTunes) I've used -all- of them and have no problems at all with any of them. It all comes down to a matter of preferences. You go with what you know. ;) I don't know about iTunes nor do I ever expect to. iTunes gets into internet commerce and the only way I get into internet commerce is if there is an actual mailing address to which I can send a check or a money order and you can't do that with iTunes I don't believe. This has kept my purchased-over-the-internet-programs to a minimum but they're both excellent ones (or were).

[richthelandlord]

Cheques are effectively obsolete here, most places no longer accept them...

If you're wary of trusting your card details to unknown retailers online, there are two easy ways to avoid doing so.

The first is to buy a 'pay as you' go card specifically for online use, and only 'charge' it with sufficient for the particular transaction each time - so it's impossible to lose more even if somebody got hold of all of the details.

The second is to use PayPal - a good percentage of online retailers accept that alongside card payments, but the retailer never sees your details - you only have a financial connection to PayPal, they're the ones who pay the retailer from their account. You only need trust one party, PayPal themselves. They also protect you from a situation where you've got faulty goods and the retailer won't play ball - they'll chase them on your behalf, and they have a lot more clout...

[paularoid]

What it comes down to actually is that I don't have a credit card. My EX-wife broke me of that a long time ago (along with a lot of other things) and I don't anticipate having another one any time soon. I really -like- having to pay just about everything with cash-on-hand. That way there are no mistakes and it keeps me out of financial trouble. If you have the cash available then you can buy it. If you don't have the cash on you then you can't. Simple, straightforward, and you don't end up with a lot of extraneous CRAP that you don't really need. As my good friend and neighbor across the street says (and he's got a LOT of "stuff"), "The more "stuff" you've got, the more "stuff" you've got to take care/keep track of. ;)

[Dar]

Janis,
I'm going to check with Peggy tonight. She's my in-house Itunes wizard. I think I remember her complaining about something about this issue.

One question, what about just plugging an ipod in at the venue with your playlist in place? I have a cable that I plug into my nano and then into the aux jack of the receiver at my gym so that I can use my nano to play my workout playlists for my class.
Is that not an option?

[JoanM]

Janis, hopefully by now you've found an easy solution. I've had the same thing happen when burning a playlist which included a purchased song. My work around was relatively simple, first I had to get rid of the purchased song, from the playlist, from the music library and I even deleted it from the "Purchased" library which is usually below the store link on the left of the iTunes menu. Then I imported the song from one of the CDs I'd already burnt from the playlist, added that version to the playlist and have been able to burn baby burn with no restrictions. However, newer versions of iTunes may have eliminated that work around. jm

[richthelandlord]

the more "stuff" you've got to take care/keep track of. ;)

That's true enough!
Fortunately most of my 'stuff' I'm able to service myself, be it mechanical or electronic - and what baffles me, Babs can sort out... there are many advantages to marrying another geek. :cool:

[paularoid]

That's true enough!
Fortunately most of my 'stuff' I'm able to service myself, be it mechanical or electronic - and what baffles me, Babs can sort out... there are many advantages to marrying another geek. :cool:

Same story here but that's not quite what I meant. I was talking more about the acquisition of more "things" to keep track of, not repair, service, or maintain. I've already got 50+ years of "stuff" and I don't need to add more to the piles of "stuff" that I've already got.