I cannot believe this

[Dee]

My *&^#@! ceiling is leaking ... again! :mad: We had a major thunderstorm last night around 7, and this is the ugly result.

It only began to drip after I was out of bed this morning, otherwise it would have been landing exactly on my head. I've had to discard the pillow as it is. Next I will be looking how to abandon this useless *&^#@! apartment. Enough is enough.

[Denise]

Holy S#@t, Dee! Where the hell did your landlord find the ones who supposedly fixed your roof??!!! What rights do you have? That is so freakin' ridiculous!

[Agnes]

OMG :mad: This is insane, Dee! Hope something gets done quickly!

[RedjackRyan]

Dee. As I consider you a friend, I would like to suggest perhaps having someone perform an exorcism on you.. You seem to be plagued by the most unimaginable bad luck of anyone i know. :(

I think the crew needs to pay a visit to your landlord, they've not had a good pillaging in a while.Sheesh.

Sorry to hear of yet more troubles with your apartment.. :(

[Randy & Betty in Pa]

Dee,

I'd blame Redjack...

Best wishes

R. from pa.

[Eva]

Dee,

Don't listen to PA Randy. Blame your landlord. I can imagine you are fed up with this.

Eva

[Dee]

I can imagine you are fed up with this.

Eva


I am so far beyond fed up Eva, the light from fed up with take 200 trillion years to reach the earth. LOL

Okay here's the deal. I spoke with my property manager this morning. He said, well maybe we'll have to start looking at some options. Gee, d’ya think?!?

I said, Yah, like moving out!

Then he said well would you consider a transfer? I said yes, IF they can find me a QUIET place that’s not going to be yet another problem. That I’ve put up with enough disruptions already. Then I recapped the reason I moved to the top floor to begin with. (He was off on sick leave during that time last year. That ass of an upstairs noisy neighbour, as some of you will recall.)

SO. He supposed to meet with who knows who today and discuss the situation and get back to me tomorrow about what to do next. Meantime, I am trying to dry out the soaked spot on my mattress. I’m also considering putting a stop payment on the rest of my rent cheques if they don’t take immediate action to remedy this insanity. (Tho I didn’t mention that part to him ... yet.)

Calm blue sea, calm blue sea, calm blue sea ....

[RedjackRyan]

Mister Robinsons Neighborhood - Eddie Murphy -SNL


Dark and lonely on a summer's night.

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

Watchdog barking. Do he bite?

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

Slip in his window. Break his neck.

Then his house I start to wreck.

Got no reason. What the heck?

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

C-I-L my landlord

[snakegrl]

Dee. As I consider you a friend, I would like to suggest perhaps having someone perform an exorcism on you.. You seem to be plagued by the most unimaginable bad luck of anyone i know. :(

I think the crew needs to pay a visit to your landlord, they've not had a good pillaging in a while.Sheesh.

Sorry to hear of yet more troubles with your apartment.. :(
Ooooooh...Pillaging a bad land lord sounds good to me, having had my share of them.
Dee, you might want to get pictures of all the damage if you haven't already.
Sorry to hear of your sitation. I can send you a smuge stick:)
Actually sea salt and water work very well.
I love Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood. Thanks for posting that one Redjack.

[david uk]

Oh Dee, this is "£$%^& ridiculous!!!

As Redjack said, you have such incredibly bad luck where apartments are concerned.

I really do hope you get this sorted one way or another very soon....

[RedjackRyan]

Snakegrl, i think we're gonna have to make a proper pirate out of you.. you definately seem to have the requisite lust for life and love of a proper pillaging.. Glad ya enjoyed the Mister Robinson. a particular favorite of mine :D


Your first order of business as a new pirate, will be to flog Dee's landlord with a rope thats been wetted in the bilges. Thirty lashes with that disease infested rope should have him singing a different tune!

[ponytail]

Reminds me of a night a couple of years ago when Dave, my partner, was away. I was deathly sick with the flu. A pipe burst and water began pouring down out of my kitchen ceiling. It was around one AM. The noise of it woke me from a sound sleep (luckily). My landlord lives in the building behind me. I went over there in my bathrobe, hyperventilating so badly I could hardly talk, and banged on his door.

He turned off the water, and got it fixed the next day. Poor boy also caught my flu. Sorry about that;)

[Eva]

Your first order of business as a new pirate, will be to flog Dee's landlord with a rope thats been wetted in the bilges. Thirty lashes with that disease infested rope should have him singing a different tune!

And I can teach you how to do it...

Pirate Queen

[snakegrl]

Just 30 lashes Redjack? Heck, I could make him sing all kinds of tunes. Bwahahahaha. I'll even make him dance as well. Since this guy likes to give our friend Dee a song and dance, I say he should be made to do it proper and at the end of a greased gangplank. If he survives that, he has to eat my cooking:eek: That'll teach the rotten scurve good.
And Eva, I have no doubt that you can. ;) I humbly bow to the Pirate Queen.
I am honored to accept this mission and hitherto will lustily goeth and pilliage all lazy landbarons, fart in their general directions and give all evil doers a bad time. My cutlass and billowing bloomers are at your service.

[hoops]

dee that sucks monkey buckets. I'm so sorry to hear of your poor luck. IF and only IF he finds you a DECENT place with EQUAL rent and MORE amentities would i even stay with that bum. and YES do consider stop payments on your rent checks until after this is all completed AND you get a free months rent. the pillaging is all well and good, but what hurts a man the most is to hit him in his wallet...and you deserve every dime. then take him out for a good lashing

[Dee]

Ken (my ex of 10 years, best friend, and legal Trustee), discovered that my landlords are actually in violation of one of the terms of my lease now (Care of Premises, Paragraph 1), so I have the upper hand in negotiations. We’ll also try for a rent reduction or rebate in there somewhere.

My property manager is supposed to get back to me today with some sort of offer for a transfer to another unit. I am going to request a meeting for the three of us as soon as possible, to try and put an end to this ongoing saga of incompetence — one way or another.

[Eva]

a meeting for the three of us as soon as possible, to try and put an end to this ongoing saga of incompetence — one way or another.

Go get him, Dee!

And if that fails, the Pirates are waiting for you to scream "charge!"* And we will. Redjack and I will grant Snackgirl the special favour of teaching the landlord to sing. I have every faith in her. She has some wicked ideas.

Pirate Queen

*PS: Screaming "Abortioooooon!" or "Alcohooooool!" will also do. Just pick any phrase you like

[snakegrl]

And I can't wait to try them out. Mwahahahahahaha. Eva,Redjack, thanks for this wonderful opportunity. I have found my true calling.
Dee, I'm eating beans as I write this.
...found the grease. now where did I put that cat-o-nine tails? Here it is, left soaking in the bilge, or is that my tuna surprise? Oh well , same difference.
So, when do we start?

[Dee]

It's been two days since I was told I would get a response about this nonsense. All I have so far is the sound of deafening silence. I have asked for a meeting with my trustee Ken and the property manager. Silence. As far as I'm concerned Minto has neglected to keep their end of the bargain, thereby invalidating the lease I signed with them. Perhaps I should just go elsewhere, but I like the neighbourhood and my building, so I will give them the rest of today to offer something. Whether or not they respond today, the property manager and administrator are both getting copies of this letter Ken wrote:



As Daniel’s trustee (and on behalf of Daniel), based on Section 12 of the lease, Care of Premises, Paragraph 1, we are requesting a rent deduction for the following reasons:

1. His roof leaks, a problem I believe you were aware of when Collette rented him the unit. Otherwise, it is not likely the Murphy bed would have been removed.

2. When he signed the lease, we were unable to see the unit but were told in answer to our question that the unit was exactly the same as the previous Unit 308. When Daniel moved in, he discovered that there was no bed and noticed the water stains over where the bed used to be. Daniel entered the lease agreement in good faith; he should have been given equal consideration and been made aware that you were renting a unit that leaks when it rains. Given the history of repairs and other leaking units which has come to light, it seems apparent that you knew of Daniel’s leaking ceiling at the time of rental.

3. More than a month ago, he awoke to dripping water on his mattress. We became aware that the roof has supposedly been “fixed” a number of times. Again, after a month, you apparently had the roof repaired again. It seems that the building needs major roof repair, not just patch jobs. This morning Daniel awoke to find his pillow was again being dripped on from the leaking ceiling.

4. Daniel has complied with his lease obligations in every way. A lease is binding on both parties. Section 12, Care of Premises, Paragraph 1 states Minto’s obligation to keep units in “a good state of repair, fit for habitation.”

5. Daniel simply wants a quiet unit free from outside elements. Please respond to this letter before the end of this month of June, and take the necessary steps to bring a final solution to the leaking roof. Under current circumstances it would seem fair, ethical and professional to offer Daniel a rent rebate and to reduce his monthly rent until this problem is permanently resolved.

[Dee]

Well, it's been 48 hours now since I last spoke to my property manager, so I just dropped off the two letters at the office next door.

That ought to at least spark some interest. LOL

[DaveM]

Consider me in for the pillaging if it comes down to that....do you have a navigable waterway anywhere nearby, Dee? And will Canada allow pirates to cross the border?

We might have to go in undercover.....what's the best way to camouflage a hook and an eyepatch? And will they put Farkle in quarantine?

All silliness aside--good luck to you Dee. You have the lease and the law on your side, no question about that. If all else fails, have the repairs done yourself, bill the landlord, and when he doesn't pay, take him to court seeking punitive as well as actual damages.

I lived for a brief time in an apartment where Mr. SubWoofer Who Loves Rap Music lived directly upstairs. And he liked his music LOUD (dishes would literally rattle in the cupboards). Citations from the landlord and even a ticket from the police accomplished nothing. So....one day he had a break-in. And wouldn't you know it? The only thing the burglars took was that subwoofer.

No, I haven't the faintest idea what happened to it.

[Dee]

it's completely by the book from here on in Dave. They are totally in the wrong legally. Now now you'd think they'd at least have the decency to make an appointment to discuss this. Or am I thinking of life on another planet? LOL

[RedjackRyan]

Can't believe they are stonewalling you on this. Its not like you are asking for anything unreasonable.. you just want to be dry!

depressing to know that america doesn't have a lock on scumbag landlords.. :(

[Dee]

No, Redjack, you don't have. I decided to apply with Minto in the first place because I thought they would be reliable landlords. They are MAJOR property owners here in Ottawa, in Ontario for that matter. And here I am having to chase after them just to try and make things right.

Stupid me.

[ponytail]

Sorry to hear they're choosing to handle this so miserably. I think there's a special room in hell for deadbeat landlords, complete with biting spiders and endless loud bagpipe music. Unfortunately, that's not much help to you now.:mad:

[Dee]

Guess I forgot to remember that stupid rises to the top, PT. Probably because their heads are full of helium. :p LOL

[snakegrl]

Nah Ponytail, those guys come back in the next life as pinworms.
Dee, DaveM's idea sounds good. Youv'e given them time and they gave you nothing in return. So, take matters into your own hands. If I wasn't so far away, I'd offer to help fix it.
Looks like it's pillaging time.:D
Dee, if you hear screams and a thud, don't open your door. Oh, get yourself a gas mask. Those beans are deadly. Make a wish list too. I will see to it that Mr. Nasty Land Baron obliges.
Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

[hoops]

dee. time to start making phone calls and lot's of them at all hours of the day and night to MAKE SURE they get the message that you WILL meet with them soon... good luck
hoops
oh and EVA thanks for the quote! i love it

[Dee]

Good suggestions one and all, unfortunately there are pesky little things called laws that have to be adhered to.

It's Friday morning pre-dawn. Still no word from the elusive property manager.

I just left him a voice mail (with my phone # in two places) saying I was expecting him to get back to me on Wednesday as he'd said, but since he didn't I'm wondering what's going on. And ...

Also at this point I think it would be in everybody's best interest for him, me, and my Trustee to meet to discuss things. I told him any day next week except Tuesday would be good, and to please let me know when he'd be available

It's Friday. Good luck to me. LOL

[hoops]

good luck to you and it's not harrassment if you are truly paranoid and have every reason to be

[Dee]

It’s four days since I last spoke with my property manager. He finally returned my phone call at least – yesterday. He told me they have hired a new team to work on repairing the roof. So as far as the rest goes, it can wait till I have at least a non raining ceiling. He also said he’s “passed along” my letter. To whom I have no idea, but it tells me he has no actual decision making power. That being the case, I will expect less from him and be less disappointed/frustated doing so. I have to let this go for now. I’m stressing way too much over it all. I’ll wait to hear back from whoever about the letter Ken wrote, then take it from there.

The letter:

As Daniel’s trustee (and on behalf of Daniel), based on Section 12 of the lease, Care of Premises, Paragraph 1, we are requesting a rent deduction for the following reasons:

1. His roof leaks, a problem I believe you were aware of when Collette rented him the unit. Otherwise, it is not likely the Murphy bed would have been removed.

2. When he signed the lease, we were unable to see the unit but were told in answer to our question that the unit was exactly the same as the previous Unit 308. When Daniel moved in, he discovered that there was no bed and noticed the water stains over where the bed used to be. Daniel entered the lease agreement in good faith; he should have been given equal consideration and been made aware that you were renting a unit that leaks when it rains. Given the history of repairs and other leaking units which has come to light, it seems apparent that you knew of Daniel’s leaking ceiling at the time of rental.

3. More than a month ago, he awoke to dripping water on his mattress. We became aware that the roof has supposedly been “fixed” a number of times. Again, after a month, you apparently had the roof repaired again. It seems that the building needs major roof repair, not just patch jobs. This morning Daniel awoke to find his pillow was again being dripped on from the leaking ceiling.

4. Daniel has complied with his lease obligations in every way. A lease is binding on both parties. Section 12, Care of Premises, Paragraph 1 states Minto’s obligation to keep units in “a good state of repair, fit for habitation.”

5. Daniel simply wants a quiet unit free from outside elements. Please respond to this letter before the end of this month of June, and take the necessary steps to bring a final solution to the leaking roof. Under current circumstances it would seem fair, ethical and professional to offer Daniel a rent rebate and to reduce his monthly rent until this problem is permanently resolved.

[ponytail]

Glad to hear they're at least fixing the roof. And reducing your stress at the moment sounds like a very healthy idea.

Um, about all the flogging and stuff...we can still do that, can't we? I brought a folding chair and a cooler full of drinks and snacks, and a CD of John Mellencamp repeatedly singing "Hurts So Good"...I'm kind of all ready for that part...I thought I'd be the cheering section.;)

[snakegrl]

Sure PT, we can still do that. But, let's wait till after Dee's roof is fixed.
I think the property manager's " don't give a ****" attitude deserves a few lashes.
And then, he WILL eat my cooking.:eek:

[Dee]

Yah sure PT, whatever you think will help.

Perhaps if I draw them a map?

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